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Old 02-03-2016, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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Nothing Cruz' campaign did was fraudulent or underhanded.
Wrong as usual.

Ted Cruz

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After seeing the mailers, Iowa’s secretary of state, Paul Pate, issued a statement condemning Cruz’s tactic:
“Today I was shown a piece of literature from the Cruz for President campaign that misrepresents the role of my office, and worse, misrepresents Iowa election law. Accusing citizens of Iowa of a “voting violation” based on Iowa Caucus participation, or lack thereof, is false representation of an official act. There is no such thing as an election violation related to frequency of voting. Any insinuation or statement to the contrary is wrong and I believe it is not in keeping in the spirit of the Iowa Caucuses.
Additionally, the Iowa Secretary of State’s Office never “grades” voters. Nor does the Secretary of State maintain records related to Iowa Caucus participation. Caucuses are organized and directed by the state political parties, not the Secretary of State, nor local elections officials. Also, the Iowa Secretary of State does not “distribute” voter records. They are available for purchase for political purposes only, under Iowa Code.”
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After looking at several mailers posted online, I was more curious about how the Cruz campaign came up with its scores. On all the mailers I saw, every voter listed had only one of three possible scores: fifty-five per cent, sixty-five per cent, or seventy-five per cent, which translate to F, D, and C grades, respectively. Iowans take voting pretty seriously. Why was it that nobody had a higher grade?


In Iowa, although voter-registration information is free and available to the public, voter history is not. That information is maintained by the secretary of state, who licenses it to campaigns, super PACs, polling firms, and any other entity that might want it. So was the Cruz campaign accurately portraying the voter histories of Iowans? Or did it simply make up the numbers?

It seems to have made them up.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Carson and Cruz pull the same evangelical vote, most of those Carson votes would have gone directly to Cruz, I doubt there is a chance in hell that the votes get retallied but it does open a crack on Cruz's character or his narrative of being above the fray of politics, it shows that he is not above politics as usual trickery, that notion can hurt him over time.
A funny theory I heard is that because the caucus is not a secret vote some people were embarrassed to vote for Trump or didn't want that to define them in view of their neighbors.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Carson and Cruz pull the same evangelical vote, most of those Carson votes would have gone directly to Cruz, I doubt there is a chance in hell that the votes get retallied but it does open a crack on Cruz's character or his narrative of being above the fray of politics, it shows that he is not above politics as usual trickery, that notion can hurt him over time.
A funny theory I heard is that because the caucus is not a secret vote some people were embarrassed to vote for Trump or didn't want that to define them in view of their neighbors.
Why would anyone vote for a person if they felt it would be embarrassing if their friend and/neighbors found out about it? That is a clear indication you shouldn't be voting for that person, if there ever was one. Sheesh.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: in a pond with the other human scum
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Reality show clown, running for president. Idiocracy has arrived, 480 years ahead of schedule.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Wrong as usual.

Ted Cruz
The S.O.S from what I have read has slammed it, but stopped short of calling it fraud or illegal. Underhanded absolutely, but its less clear if it was fraud or anything illegal.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Carson and Cruz pull the same evangelical vote, most of those Carson votes would have gone directly to Cruz, I doubt there is a chance in hell that the votes get retallied but it does open a crack on Cruz's character or his narrative of being above the fray of politics, it shows that he is not above politics as usual trickery, that notion can hurt him over time.
A funny theory I heard is that because the caucus is not a secret vote some people were embarrassed to vote for Trump or didn't want that to define them in view of their neighbors.
I could never figure out how anyone could honestly draw that Carson was leaving the campaign, of course, it has been established that Cruz isn't honest and now that he would have no problem with his employees acting in an unprofessional manner. Anyone in their right mind and anyone following Christian values would have verified a story before spreading it. All Cruz spreads in the first place is horse manure.

From this, you can tell that Carson quitting the race was a HUGE stretch: Trevor Loudon's New Zeal Blog » CNN, NOT Cruz staff, responsible for Ben Carson campaign suspension ‘rumor’
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