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Old 02-11-2016, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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First and foremost, politics is a very personal thing and people are allowed to be extremely passionate about issues they care about. Many, many issues are literally life and death issues.

I have decided that although I dislike Clinton with a passion, there is no perfect progressive candidate, simply because there is no perfect (viable) solution to every problem. The candidates have different ideas about how to address the issues. These ideas aren’t good vs evil. They may just be different than what I want done.

This said, I don't think I can really look at myself in the mirror if I voted for Clinton. I cannot face my own conscience. But many people don't share the same passion and I can accept that as well.

In all fairness, many people perhaps believe Clinton would win and vote accordingly. I think it is a sad situation. It is what it is.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:08 AM
 
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Bill will become the first Gentleman. American politics for another 4 or 8 years.
He'll become a skeleton, seeing what he looks now already.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Presidential election 2028: Rand Paul vs. Chelsea Clinton.

You heard it here first, folks.
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Old 02-12-2016, 01:57 AM
 
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Presidential election 2028: Rand Paul vs. Chelsea Clinton.

You heard it here first, folks.
Or maybe George P. Bush vs. Chelsea Clinton?
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Old 02-12-2016, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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He'll become a skeleton, seeing what he looks now already.
The First skeleton...

He looks so old. Who would have thought he would age so poorly? 8 years ago he looked fine.
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Old 02-12-2016, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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Presidential election 2028: Rand Paul vs. Chelsea Clinton.

You heard it here first, folks.
Rand Paul lol.

Maybe we can have new dynasties Michelle Obama, Ivanka Trump. Or new clowns like Ann Coulter or Kanye West.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:28 AM
 
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First scenario: Bernie Sanders wins in 2016. Because of his age, its one term only. Problem for the Democrats is they have no bench. No leading candidate for 2020, so Republicans easily take back the White House. I like Nikki Haley - she's an up-and-comer. Rubio will fade into obscurity since he is not running for reelection to the Senate.

Second scenario: Trump wins in 2016. By 2020 people are so fed up with him they will vote for anyone the Dems put up. Andrew Cuomo, perhaps.
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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The First skeleton...

He looks so old. Who would have thought he would age so poorly? 8 years ago he looked fine.
Bernie Sanders at 74 looks waaayyyy better.

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Old 02-12-2016, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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First scenario: Bernie Sanders wins in 2016. Because of his age, its one term only. Problem for the Democrats is they have no bench. No leading candidate for 2020, so Republicans easily take back the White House. I like Nikki Haley - she's an up-and-comer. Rubio will fade into obscurity since he is not running for reelection to the Senate.

Second scenario: Trump wins in 2016. By 2020 people are so fed up with him they will vote for anyone the Dems put up. Andrew Cuomo, perhaps.
Democrats have no bench, but the Republicans haven't even decided what game they want to play.

There are literally no good choices this cycle. The Republican ticket is a dumpster fire without the dumpster, and the Democrats are a crook and a throwback to 1961.

Can we just leave the office empty for four years until we get a better candidate(s)?
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Old 02-13-2016, 05:15 PM
 
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Either Hillary or Trump will win this year's election. No matter who wins, both probably would be one-term, unless they do really spectacularly. I can see, in 2020, Tulsi Gabbard, maybe Hillary (again) and perhaps Julian Castro running on the Democrats' side (in the event of a President Trump) and on the GOP side, Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, and Tom Cotton (in the even of a President Clinton).
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