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Old 02-12-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Bernie Sanders IS liberalism. He IS a Democrat Socialist. He has lived and worked that way his whole life. So why is it the Democrat Party and many of their counterparts in the "news" media are doing all they can to help Hillary?

They are literally changing rules to help her.

My take on it is that most Dems in DC are frauds. They are as bad or worse than they claim the GOP is. They are dishonest, self-serving, power and money hungry pathetic excuses for human beings. There is no other explanation to support a known liar, like Hillary. Hillary, who is largely funded by Wall Street. Hillary who is under INVESTIGATION by the FBI. And not just her, her shady foundation now too.

Even PBS and NPR favor Hillary. You had one of the "moderators" last night at the Dem debate utter "oh God" when Sanders was talking. One of them was also ........a Clinton Foundation donor. LOL You can make this stuff up anymore. Out entire political system and "news" organizations....filled with bias, corruption, lies.

I am not one for socialism or big government, but damn it, it's hard not to like or even admire Bernie. Truly as grassroots campaign and the guy is honest. He's truly led by actions for decades. It just boggles my mind how the DNC and media STILL fawn over Hillary.
Bernie Sanders is a progressive, not a liberal.


As for the Clinton Foundation attacks. They arent going to work because The Bush Family, News Corp,the Murdoch Family, Newsmax, Chris Christie, and even Carly Fiorina have donated to it.

Many more Republicans have helped raise money for it who didnt donate themselves.

The rest of your post is opinion.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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because TPTB have already decided the outcome of the election DESPITE your believing you have "freedom of choice"
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Originally Posted by Tilt11 View Post
Bernie Sanders IS liberalism. He IS a Democrat Socialist. He has lived and worked that way his whole life. So why is it the Democrat Party and many of their counterparts in the "news" media are doing all they can to help Hillary?

They are literally changing rules to help her.

My take on it is that most Dems in DC are frauds. They are as bad or worse than they claim the GOP is. They are dishonest, self-serving, power and money hungry pathetic excuses for human beings. There is no other explanation to support a known liar, like Hillary. Hillary, who is largely funded by Wall Street. Hillary who is under INVESTIGATION by the FBI. And not just her, her shady foundation now too.

Even PBS and NPR favor Hillary. You had one of the "moderators" last night at the Dem debate utter "oh God" when Sanders was talking. One of them was also ........a Clinton Foundation donor. LOL You can make this stuff up anymore. Out entire political system and "news" organizations....filled with bias, corruption, lies.

I am not one for socialism or big government, but damn it, it's hard not to like or even admire Bernie. Truly as grassroots campaign and the guy is honest. He's truly led by actions for decades. It just boggles my mind how the DNC and media STILL fawn over Hillary.

Well said! I don't get it either. Bernie really cares about the average person and wants to help uplift everyone to have a better life, that deserves support. It's really up to the Americans to vote in the primary and caucus.

by the way what moderator uttered that expression during the debate on PBS? I didn't hear it.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Bernie Sanders IS liberalism. He IS a Democrat Socialist. He has lived and worked that way his whole life. So why is it the Democrat Party and many of their counterparts in the "news" media are doing all they can to help Hillary?

They are literally changing rules to help her.

My take on it is that most Dems in DC are frauds. They are as bad or worse than they claim the GOP is. They are dishonest, self-serving, power and money hungry pathetic excuses for human beings. There is no other explanation to support a known liar, like Hillary. Hillary, who is largely funded by Wall Street. Hillary who is under INVESTIGATION by the FBI. And not just her, her shady foundation now too.

Even PBS and NPR favor Hillary. You had one of the "moderators" last night at the Dem debate utter "oh God" when Sanders was talking. One of them was also ........a Clinton Foundation donor. LOL You can make this stuff up anymore. Out entire political system and "news" organizations....filled with bias, corruption, lies.

I am not one for socialism or big government, but damn it, it's hard not to like or even admire Bernie. Truly as grassroots campaign and the guy is honest. He's truly led by actions for decades. It just boggles my mind how the DNC and media STILL fawn over Hillary.
I agree with you 100%.

especially the bolded.

I am a conservative, and I admire Bernie sanders. He's an honest guy who really cares. I just wish that he found better ways reaching black and hispanic voters.

Many young people like me (People under 30 or in their early 30s) admire Bernie sanders. I am not sure if I am going to vote for him, but I like him.
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Old 02-12-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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So was Bernie Madoff...
No. People didn't know that Hillary actually made a ton of money trading futures while still in Arkansas. She was one of the few unicorn who actually beat the market by a ton!! The kind of returns that professionals will tell you is near impossible, she achieved it. That's why I say she has always overachieved, at almost everything she did. You may not like her as a person, but there is no denying her achievement.

Madoff could only dream of doing that. The only way he could get money is by running a Ponzi scheme.
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Old 02-12-2016, 01:52 PM
 
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So brilliant in fact, her actions led to her being investigated by the FBI. So brilliant, she thought it was a good idea to give staffers with no high level clearance, access to a private server that had highly classified info. So brilliant, she claims to stand for the little guy, yet is largely funded by billionaires.
If you dig deep into every great man and woman, you are going to find flaws. Even the greatest quarterback in history has weaknesses. You're confusing greatness with perfection.
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Old 02-12-2016, 01:52 PM
 
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No. People didn't know that Hillary actually made a ton of money trading futures while still in Arkansas. She was one of the few unicorn who actually beat the market by a ton!! The kind of returns that professionals will tell you is near impossible, she achieved it.

Madoff could only dream of doing that. The only way he could get money is by running a Ponzi scheme.
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Professionals will tell you it was criminal insider trading.
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Old 02-12-2016, 02:09 PM
 
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Bernie Sanders IS liberalism. He IS a Democrat Socialist.
Which is it, liberal or democratic socialist?

Now I know that non-democrats have a very limited vocabulary for things of a political-economic nature so allow me to point out that they are not the same thing in concept or practice.
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Old 02-12-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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Bernie Sanders IS liberalism. He IS a Democrat Socialist. He has lived and worked that way his whole life. So why is it the Democrat Party and many of their counterparts in the "news" media are doing all they can to help Hillary?
Hillary is considered more electable. The way a democrat will get elected is to be somewhat moderate, or purple. Sanders is very blue. BTW, the media has done an excellent job of finding anything they can to criticize Hillary.
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Old 02-12-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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No. People didn't know that Hillary actually made a ton of money trading futures while still in Arkansas. She was one of the few unicorn who actually beat the market by a ton!! The kind of returns that professionals will tell you is near impossible, she achieved it. That's why I say she has always overachieved, at almost everything she did. You may not like her as a person, but there is no denying her achievement.

Madoff could only dream of doing that. The only way he could get money is by running a Ponzi scheme.
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Yet she claims she & Bill were broke just a few years later.

Either she didn't earn this money as claimed, or the Clintons are horrible at money management. Your choice.
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