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View Poll Results: Are you in favor of one of Trumps plans for Mexico to pay for the wall
YES 46 62.16%
NO 28 37.84%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-18-2016, 08:13 PM
 
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He is already extremely rich, so what does he want?
He wants people to think he's totally awesome and the greatest guy who ever walked the face of the earth. Except for his good friend Jesus. Who he met when he realized he needed Christians to vote for him.
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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If any of the candidates were legitimate, they'd continually stress that all we have to do is STOP OFFERING BAIT to immigrants, in the form of welfare and education given freely regardless of citizenship status. A wall is a joke and they all know it.
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:17 PM
 
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It's hardly either/or and most of the remaining Republicans are all too eager to get back to the Middle East to help the US restore our "leadership" that they think is lacking under Obama- perhaps another 10 years this time in both Syria and Iraq.

In any case a wall would be easy to pay for - just use seized drug money and/or tolls from anyone entering the US to fund it. Perhaps Trump could make anyone caught crossing illegally work on building the wall for 90 days.
I hope not. Total waste of time and money. And beyond time and money is the damage done to the troops that come home traumatized. They and their families shouldn't have to go through that for such nonsense.
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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Well, he's doing a decent job mimicking one. How many positions has he flip-flopped on, taking the conservative stance every time?

Keep Trump away from the WH, whatever he is. He's the most farcical candidate in US history.
Would that be his support for gay rights going back nearly 2 decades, or his support for universal healthcare which you believe mimick a Republican?
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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If any of the candidates were legitimate, they'd continually stress that all we have to do is STOP OFFERING BAIT to immigrants, in the form of welfare and education given freely regardless of citizenship status. A wall is a joke and they all know it.
The vast majority of illegal immigrants come here to work. If Republicans truly wanted to curtail illegal immigration, they'd go after the businesses that hire them, but they wouldn't dare.

The inconvenient truth for right-wingers: illegal immigrants are good for business. If they weren't, the employment opportunities would have vanished ages ago.

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Would that be his support for gay rights going back nearly 2 decades, or his support for universal healthcare which you believe mimick a Republican?
He's already flip-flopping on SSM, saying he wants to appoint judges to overturn last year's ruling.

So now you're down to universal healthcare - - a term he refuses to use to describe his plan. He'll flip flop on that issue eventually too.

Populist, my foot.
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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He wants people to think he's totally awesome and the greatest guy who ever walked the face of the earth. Except for his good friend Jesus. Who he met when he realized he needed Christians to vote for him.
So Ego. I don't know if that's such a bad thing. At least he's have to produce results to keep up the totally awesome facade.
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:31 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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He hasn't said how he will make Mexico pay for it. It doesn't have to be so literal, like the Mexican government will hand over $10 billion to pay for it. It could be in tariffs or fees to cross the border legally.

I really don't care if Americans have to pay for it. It's not a lot of money. I calculated $33 per American. It hasn't been built yet, because our gov simply doesn't want it. They want low pay labor to flow in at ease. The issue is not the cost of the wall. It's keeping labor cost low.
He hasn't said much outright but he's hinted at things, such as what you'd already mentioned plus I remember a short blurb about taking it off of the top of the amount of US debt that Mexico holds, etc.

One other thing he'd mentioned is that the wall will be pre-built in sections, which will take less manual labor to install. Heavy equipment to dig the trenches and also to pick up and set the sections.

The US had already purchased much of the land needed to build the wall. There are parts of the border where it won't be feasible to place a wall, since the area is so harsh that most illegal wanna-bes would die off before reaching the border (like so many have already done), so they'll probably use sensors instead.

It floors me that people are carping about the one time cost $8-$10 billion (not including yearly maintenance) to build the wall when the illegals are already costing the American taxpayer more than $100 billion a year. Boot out the illegals and we save more than $100 billion a year.

Hmm, $8-10 billion one time cost for the wall versus more than $100 billion each and every year to support the illegals .. and people are having problems with the cost of the wall?

As far as the illegals coming back, they won't step out of this country and turn around and walk back in. No doubt they will have to go through the same immigration process that everyone else does.
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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He hasn't said much outright but he's hinted at things, such as what you'd already mentioned plus I remember a short blurb about taking it off of the top of the amount of US debt that Mexico holds, etc.

One other thing he'd mentioned is that the wall will be pre-built in sections, which will take less manual labor to install. Heavy equipment to dig the trenches and also to pick up and set the sections.

The US had already purchased much of the land needed to build the wall. There are parts of the border where it won't be feasible to place a wall, since the area is so harsh that most illegal wanna-bes would die off before reaching the border (like so many have already done), so they'll probably use sensors instead.

It floors me that people are carping about the one time cost $8-$10 billion (not including yearly maintenance) to build the wall when the illegals are already costing the American taxpayer more than $100 billion a year. Boot out the illegals and we save more than $100 billion a year.

Hmm, $8-10 billion one time cost for the wall versus more than $100 billion each and every year to support the illegals .. and people are having problems with the cost of the wall?

As far as the illegals coming back, they won't step out of this country and turn around and walk back in. No doubt they will have to go through the same immigration process that everyone else does.
He is quite experienced in large construction projects. I'm sure he's do it much more efficiently than anyone else.
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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He is quite experienced in large construction projects. I'm sure he's do it much more efficiently than anyone else.
Comparing golf courses and skyscrapers to a 1,000 mile wall...
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Old 02-18-2016, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Maybe I missed this, but, how will Trump make Mexico pay for this wall? If he could make them pay for this wall why doesn't he just make them stop coming to this country in an illegal manner? I must be missing some key piece of information...thanks!!!
This question has been asked many times and the subtexts always is that they won't pay and there is nothing you do can to make them. Here is the story. They don't have to agree to pay us anything. We already have their money. Can you not pay your property taxes when it is already escrowed? No. We have a $50+ billion dollars account deficit with them every year. You keep $10B for the wall and give them the rest. For Mexico, it is bargain. They will make 5 times that next year.
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