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I don't think Trump would be that bad of a domestic policy President. That is if he actually comes up with a universal health care coverage plan, and actually finds a way to limit H1B visas and fix immigration. Where I think he'd be a disaster is on the international stage. Will Trump the President have the same hubris and temper of Trump the Reality Star and Brand? If so then we are in for a very bad time with international relations, something that requires some level of humility.
But then again, I think all of the current candidates will be terrible foreign policy Presidents with Sanders possibly being the least worst of bad bunch.
You know, the Democrats have a persona they've given Trump, which is this vile, unreasonable man. At the surface, I can kinda see how they'd get there, but really, does Trump even fit that description? Not really. He's a bit goofy. He's a reality TV star, so he seems over the top. But he's probably not like that at all. He's a reasonably intelligent guy, obviously. A guy like that cannot get this far in a presidential race without being smart. People like to call him dumb; he's not. Maybe some of his voters are, but a lot of people like him for the same reason they like Bernie, which is that he's always pissed off.
The thing is, how people describe Donald usually makes me think of Ted Cruz. No, I don't think he'd run the country into the ground; that's very a difficult thing accomplish in only 4-8 years. But Ted Cruz is concerning to me. He's very undemocratic (political process; not Democrat the party) and frankly only believes in his way of life, which is riddled with contradiction. He loves to make things about Jesus, which fine, but Jesus would not every say "I'll make the sand glow" as a response to a question on foreign policy. I genuinely do not believe him to be a good person. He's the only one I would say that about too, even Hillary, who represent that very political establishment I despise.
Totally agree with you. He is absolutely a zealot. I would frankly describe him as a totalitarian disguised as a lover of freedom. He very much only wants things his way. Even Bernie has worked with Republicans and they do not like him. But it's because Bernie is a person and I'm not entirely convinced if Ted Cruz is. Even Donald Trump is more likely to get Democratic support that Cruz; then again, he used to be one.
I don't think Trump is that dangerous or unreasonable, I agree with you there. I do think he is one of the least intelligent people running, though. He's gotten far in life with bluster and confidence, but he doesn't strike me as that bright. I didn't see all the GOP town halls, but what I did see, Cruz, Rubio, Carson....all 3 are smarter than Trump. And way more prepared. I don't think he'd make an awful dangerous President either way, though. I don't think Rubio or Carson would either, although for the most part you're looking at a right wing SCJ with Cruz, Carson, or Rubio, and that concerns me. Trump I'm not so sure who he'd nominate. He talked about his sister who is apparently a left winger, but again that's Trump.
Anyone but "with liberals you'll see crosses and stars of David sandblasted off of soldiers tombs" hanging-out-with-Kevin-Swanson Ted Cruz, the creepy scary nut.
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I don't think Trump would be that bad of a domestic policy President. That is if he actually comes up with a universal health care coverage plan, and actually finds a way to limit H1B visas and fix immigration. Where I think he'd be a disaster is on the international stage. Will Trump the President have the same hubris and temper of Trump the Reality Star and Brand? If so then we are in for a very bad time with international relations, something that requires some level of humility.
But then again, I think all of the current candidates will be terrible foreign policy Presidents with Sanders possibly being the least worst of bad bunch.
Isn't it sad how often we wind up voting for the "least worst" instead of the best from a pool of 300,000,000+ people?
Since WHEN is the government run like a business? What kind of ROI have we ever gotten on any of our multiple wars of choice that wan't in negative numbers?
How have we always done it. Lets not change anything that's broken. Lets just do it the way it always has been done. It's working out so well as long as we ignore the failure. Why provide security for the world and not even try to get others that benefit from it to at least cover the cost ? Running it like a non profit would be better than a continued loss year after year.
Isn't it sad how often we wind up voting for the "least worst" instead of the best from a pool of 300,000,000+ people?
That's what happens when you have a country where the state of Texas voted for an extremist like Ted Cruz, and another state votes for an avowed Democratic Socialist like Bernie (who really isn't extreme except by American standards but is pretty far from Cruz)..and both of these candidates pull millions of supporters.
...as much as (Obama) has tried to wreck the country...
How, exactly, has he done this? Trust me, I'm no fan of Obama (or really any POTUS in my lifetime) but you make it sound as if he had a plan to specifcally run this nation off its rails.
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Could Trump do any worse? At least he has a mind for business and has been very successful in making deals. If he runs the country like he runs a business we might actually be better off.
What would he do? Can you reorganize the entire country under Chapter 11?
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The country is sinking and we need someone to plug the holes and right this ship.
I couldn't agree more. I wish one of the two major parties would actually put someone up on the campaign trail who was a reasonable choice instead of the parade of clowns we get now.
How, exactly, has he done this? Trust me, I'm no fan of Obama (or really any POTUS in my lifetime) but you make it sound as if he had a plan to specifcally run this nation off its rails.
What would he do? Can you reorganize the entire country under Chapter 11?
I couldn't agree more. I wish one of the two major parties would actually put someone up on the campaign trail who was a reasonable choice instead of the parade of clowns we get now.
Can't happen because on certain issues the country is so divided that the real issues that we have to get fixed can't.
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That's what happens when you have a country where the state of Texas voted for an extremist like Ted Cruz, and another state votes for an avowed Democratic Socialist like Bernie (who really isn't extreme except by American standards but is pretty far from Cruz)..and both of these candidates pull millions of supporters.
You have a very divided country.
I don't think any of the current crop would even make it past the first round of a casting call for 'POTUS like actors/actresses' to appear in a fictional movie. As in many other things the difference between fact and fiction is fiction has to make sense.
How have we always done it. Lets not change anything that's broken. Lets just do it the way it always has been done. It's working out so well as long as we ignore the failure.
Don't you recall the 2000 election where one of George W's biggest selling points was that he was an executive that had real business experience? Herbert Hoover was also one who thought government problems and inefficiencies could be solved using his business acumen.
Neither of those episodes ended too well for the country.
Like it or not the last best hope for a productive president in 2016 is Hillary...
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