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Old 02-20-2016, 04:07 PM
 
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Word is Hillary barely won Nevada and, even the vote counting ain't finished so she STILL may lose.
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:08 PM
 
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This will ensure that only the Koch brothers and Wall Street can win the "elections". Its already rapidly turning into a sham, where its becoming increasingly impossible too run without begging the Koch bros, Sheldon Adelson and a few other billionaires for money. By holding all primaries on the same day, grassroots candidates dont stand a chance at all. Its rapidly turning into a plutocracy already. This might be the last election a candidate funded by the people and not the billionaire elites can run a competitive race.
Ideally, there'd be a rule that in-person campaigning is not allowed. No commercials or print either. It all has to be done over the internet.

This would be the best equalizer possible. Although the Koch/Wall Street cronies would be able to afford more online ads and the like (which Adblock is helpful to mitigate ), the internet would make it much easier for grassroots candidates to stand a real chance.

It also helps reach out to a broader range of the population, rather than just to retired folksy types with enough time on their hands to attend political rallies.
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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Word is Hillary barely won Nevada and, even the vote counting isn't finished so she STILL may lose.
Hate to break it to you, but it's over. If anything her margin will expand because her strongest precincts haven't yet reported in.
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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Nevada is only 8% black. She won because of Hispanic support, which is 26% of the state. She talked up path to citizenship, drivers licenses, etc. for "undocumented immigrants."
Not according to the exit polling. She won blacks, women and moderate voters. She lost among latinos (they tend to be younger though so that explains some of it).
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:10 PM
 
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Rubio is no better. And worst the decisions been made for us already. All the pundits will be so proud of themselves
True. I'm just saying, Hillary's no better. Sanders is the best there is, IMO. As long as he's in the race, he'll have my vote.
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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What I find encouraging is the strong support Sanders has among not only independents and young voters, but that hispanics are increasingly seeing through the BS and vote based on economic issues, not god, guns, emotional feelings and other issues. 0.001% of hispanics had heard about Sanders a year ago and today he got roughly half of their vote.
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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From the enterance polls (Caucuses have Enterance polls, Primaries have exit polls), Sanders actually won latnos by about 8%, Clinton won blacks by about a 3-1 margin and whites were pretty much even.

One thing to keep in mind about Hispanics and Blacks, is becuase they are a small portion of the overall poll, the margin of error is a bit high. With that being said it is interesting that Sanders appears to have done better with Hispanics than whites in Nevada, though I imagine a key factor in Hispanics likely skew considerably younger.

As far as the delegates go, as I mentioned in the other thread, the delegates today aren't set in stone, as there is a further process on it, but they can be estimated based off today's vote. It will likely be 19-16 or 20-15 in favor of Clinton, the final margin in CD-4 will let us know (right now it appears to be either on the borderline of a 3-3 delegate split there or a 4-2 delegate split there in favor of Clinton)
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:12 PM
 
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Nevada is only 8% black. She won because of Hispanic support, which is 26% of the state. She talked up path to citizenship, drivers licenses, etc. for "undocumented immigrants."
MSNBC just said "Sanders is leading the Hispanic vote by 8 points"
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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Fox is reporting her win is likely attributed to organized labor.

For what it's worth or not, the Fox entrance polls indicate Bernie would win the Hispanic vote.
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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She won the hispanic vote almost 70% to 30% in 2008...They were younger then than they are now.
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