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Old 02-21-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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This is it in a nutshell. The GOPe has two options. One is get rid of Cruz and make it a two way. That might be a problem as Cruz has plenty of money and no love for the GOPe. He won't fall on his sword for them. The other is to keep it split so and get it to the convention with no one having a delegate majority.
Cruz needs to stay in to keep taking anti-establishment votes from Trump. Plus Cruz needs to win Texas so at the brokered convention Marco can be nominated when Rubio and Cruz kiss and make up.
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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No surprise that Jeb has dropped off and the establishment will now move all their money and support for Rubio. He is the empty suit puppet that would be easily handled by big money interests.
Rubio vs Hillary and the establishment can relax and it's back to normal status quo time.
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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No surprise that Jeb has dropped off and the establishment will now move all their money and support for Rubio. He is the empty suit puppet that would be easily handled by big money interests.
Rubio vs Hillary and the establishment can relax and it's back to normal status quo time.
Rubio will crush Hillary in the general election. Young vs. old. Fresh ideas vs. the status quo. Energetic vs. washed up. Likable vs. detestable. Articulate vs. incomprehensible.
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:39 AM
 
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Rubio will crush Hillary in the general election. Young vs. old. Fresh ideas vs. the status quo. Energetic vs. washed up. Likable vs. detestable. Articulate vs. incomprehensible.
The only thing new about Rubio it's his age his ideas are the same we have seen before wether it's Hillary or Bush you will get very similar things when it comes to the financial sector. Big money supports both.

Rubio is articulate as long as he has a prepared speech, take him out of that comfort zone and you will see him for the empty suit he is.

Sadly our choices are all not very good ones.
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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The snake would be lifetime liberal Democrat Donald Trump, who some supposed Republicans think is a conservative.
Another Completely, delusional, ludicrous comment.

The Strength and accurate issues Trump is addressing Trumps All and any Bogus, convoluted Modern "Conservatism" and that is the attractive appeal of Donald Trump...which has and will propel Trump to the Presidency 2017.
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Old 02-21-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Why?
Because Rubio still thinks he's running against Obama, not Donald Trump.
Rove and his band of derelicts would love nothing more than to dump money into Trump's pockets, just to have a leetle teeny, tiny bit of say-so with the guy, but Trump's not about to be giving them a single thing except a couple of serious cuts above the eye.

Old Turdblossom should have gotten a man-crush on the Donald in 2008, when Rove still amounted to something. Too late for him now.
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Old 02-21-2016, 11:27 AM
 
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The only thing that would hurt Trump is if the establishment decided to back him at this point.
Agree. They're tearing their hair out trying to figure out what to do with that guy. He's not the most articulate by a long shot but his message is clear and concise and has really resonated with people.

I think he really strikes fear into the hearts of the establishment and endears himself to voters when he starts in with the "self-funded/can't be bought" spiel.
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Old 02-21-2016, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Why?
Because Rubio still thinks he's running against Obama, not Donald Trump.
Rove and his band of derelicts would love nothing more than to dump money into Trump's pockets, just to have a leetle teeny, tiny bit of say-so with the guy, but Trump's not about to be giving them a single thing except a couple of serious cuts above the eye.

Old Turdblossom should have gotten a man-crush on the Donald in 2008, when Rove still amounted to something. Too late for him now.

Trump means to destroy the Republican establishment and re-make it into his own image, not Rove's or anyone else's. I believe that win or lose, that is one thing Donald will get done very thoroughly.

If he does win, expect to see as many teabaggers lose in 2018 as establishment Republicans. Trump wants the entire party on his band wagon and will brook to opposition from within his party. Anyone who faces off against him will have to be pretty danged sure of his own powers, as Trump's powers will be even more formidable then than they are now.

He's already made it very clear that his presidency will be more radical than what the Republican party leaders want. Half of what he's said shows he's much more favorable to siding with Democrats as Republicans on most social issues.
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Old 02-21-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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Rubio will crush Hillary in the general election. Young vs. old. Fresh ideas vs. the status quo. Energetic vs. washed up. Likable vs. detestable. Articulate vs. incomprehensible.
Give me two "fresh ideas" Rubio has?

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The only thing new about Rubio it's his age his ideas are the same we have seen before wether it's Hillary or Bush you will get very similar things when it comes to the financial sector. Big money supports both.

Rubio is articulate as long as he has a prepared speech, take him out of that comfort zone and you will see him for the empty suit he is.

Sadly our choices are all not very good ones.

This. Rubio is just young and looks 35. Cruz is the same age but looks like the middle age, snake oil car salesman that he is. Rubio is still spewing the same GOP ideas the other senior population is saying. It just sounds "fresh" coming from a under 50 person.

Rubio isn't bringing in young republicans. They've already heard the same things from their parents and Rubio is just barely old enough to be their young father so he seems hip. He's no more hip that Mike Huckabee.

Where's Jon Huntsman when you need him. The GOP refuses to smite the backwards clans that hold the party hostage. When reasonable candidates that can think for themselves step up they're too RINO for them.

No, they just have common sense and know that the party is sinking further and further into Goldwater types and only a middle person and lead them through the Red Sea but they'd rather stand still and drown.
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Old 02-21-2016, 11:34 AM
 
Location: By The Beach In Maine
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Trump is going to fare much worse in states with closed Republican primaries.

We Republicans will not let a Democrat be our nominee.
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He cleaned up in New Hampshire which has a closed primary.
It's a Hybrid primary:

http://www.ncsl.org/research/electio...ary-types.aspx

The rules state that: Voter Registration - NHSOS

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Where and when do I register to vote?

You may register to vote in the town or city clerk's office in the town or city where you are domiciled up to 10 days before any election or scheduled meeting.

It may be easier for you to register with your community's supervisors of the checklist. By law, they are required to meet on the Saturday 10 days prior to each election. Check the local newspaper(s) or call your clerk's office for the date and time of such meeting.

Qualified individuals may also register to vote at the polling place on election day at all elections.

No matter when or where you register to vote, you will be required to fill out a standard voter registration form, and you will be asked to show proof of identity, age, citizenship, and domicile. These qualifications may be established by signing affidavit(s)
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Can I vote in a primary if I am an undeclared voter?
An undeclared voter may vote in a state primary or a presidential primary. You will be required to choose either a Republican or Democratic ballot when you go to vote.

How do I return to undeclared status after voting in a state primary or presidential primary?
When you vote on a party ballot in a state or presidential primary, you become a registered member of that party unless you fill out a card or sign a list to return to undeclared status with the supervisors of the checklist.
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How do I change my party affiliation?
You may change your party affiliation with the clerk of the town or city where you are domiciled or at any scheduled meeting of the supervisors of the checklist except for during the period of time between the first day of the filing period for the primary election and the date of the primary election itself.
So it's not closed, and it's not open, though it sounds like it's open.
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