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Old 02-23-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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Old 02-23-2016, 09:25 PM
 
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Good to hear that!
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Old 02-23-2016, 09:27 PM
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Jeb! doners are now solidly, and predictably, behind the neocon Rubio. All you need to know.

Why you no want Jeb?
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Old 02-24-2016, 02:52 AM
 
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To me this keeps harkening back to the pledge crap at the first debate. It was piles of fun to trash The Donald then ... Bush was the anointed one and The Donald was an also ran who was going nowhere (according to the pundits). Now the R establishment is really worried ... as they should be. Maybe I am getting senile but I never remember either party ever trashing one of their own as the R's are doing to The Donald. They've been dancing ... soon it will be time to pay the piper.


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Old 02-24-2016, 05:04 AM
 
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Jeb had more endorsing him than he had supporters...

Who do they turn to? Who are you even talking about? His neighbors?
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Old 02-24-2016, 05:18 AM
 
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It's too simplistic to draw the connection.

First, Rasmussen, despite its name recognition, is a terrible pollster. For example, 538's retrospective poll report card gives it a "C". They are basically all over the map. A 5% swing cannot be (at least entirely) attributed to Jeb's supporters, just by virtue of Rasmussen's unreliability.

Second, just because Mr. Trump's support goes up does mean that all or any of the support came from Jeb's former supporters. We can't tell unless Rasmussen asks the specific question.

Third, it makes no sense that Jeb!'s establishment supporters would simply hop over to Mr. Trump's camp overnight, after they abused each other for months on end. It would take some time for Jeb supporters to get over that.

Mick
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Old 02-24-2016, 06:44 AM
 
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It's too simplistic to draw the connection.

First, Rasmussen, despite its name recognition, is a terrible pollster. For example, 538's retrospective poll report card gives it a "C". They are basically all over the map. A 5% swing cannot be (at least entirely) attributed to Jeb's supporters, just by virtue of Rasmussen's unreliability.

Second, just because Mr. Trump's support goes up does mean that all or any of the support came from Jeb's former supporters. We can't tell unless Rasmussen asks the specific question.

Third, it makes no sense that Jeb!'s establishment supporters would simply hop over to Mr. Trump's camp overnight, after they abused each other for months on end. It would take some time for Jeb supporters to get over that.

Mick
Yes indeed. And when it comes right down to it ... where else can they go? The R apparati is in fear of its very existence, and we come back to the same question ... where else can they go? They are all painfully aware of what Ross did to them and it looks like they have to suck it up. After the first debate, I had a hard time watching Fox news (still refuse to watch Kelly) but I have great glee watching chuck, brett, and george quiety eating crow while hiding behind their phony smiles for the camera.

You mentioned Rasm ... but it also has to grate on Fox leadership the results of their own polls. The Donald is a regular guest on Bill's show ... something tells me that eventually he will actually appear on Kelly's program. That is one that I will watch, just to see more of her grimaces like The Donald pictured in a tweet.


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Old 02-24-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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Indeed.

People, when faced with picking a new candidate, generally won't pick another loser. They will go with the one winning the election. The entire MSM meme that people who didn't vote for Trump so far will never vote for him, is nonsense.

Rubio's performance so far in this primary is 3rd place in terms of delegates and he has not won a single state. = Loser. Why would anyone switch their vote to him?
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Old 02-24-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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To me this keeps harkening back to the pledge crap at the first debate. It was piles of fun to trash The Donald then ... Bush was the anointed one and The Donald was an also ran who was going nowhere (according to the pundits). Now the R establishment is really worried ... as they should be. Maybe I am getting senile but I never remember either party ever trashing one of their own as the R's are doing to The Donald. They've been dancing ... soon it will be time to pay the piper.


El Nox
You are right as for the trashing but examine how it all started and the classless names he used from the very beginning. Think of some of the things he said about others.. Often it was before any of them said a negative thing about him. There is one thing to tear down a candidates policies and quite another to tear the person down.
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Old 02-24-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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Awesome news and a fascinating election cycle! Go Trump, Go!
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