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Old 02-28-2016, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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It is going to be interesting, come November, to see if there are enough unhappy, angry people who want to burn down the house, to win an actual general election. When push comes to shove, it may be that most people want change, but aren't quite ready to blow up the entire system in the hope that something better may emerge. In which case, all the energetic ranting and raving will have just amounted to spitting in the wind.

Lolol....it sure is going to be interesting.

And don't think the Democrats aren't worried as hell about what their party members might do in that voting booth in November.
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:02 AM
 
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Lol at "political correctness". 9 times out of ten is just white males being bitter they can't say any racist, sexist,classist comments without any pushback like the good ole days
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:21 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It's ALL about destroying the Establishment and Political Correctness

IF that was true, Trump would be running as an (I) and not an (R), as it is he's been very much a part of the establishment, buying politicians as he's bragged about in the buy and sell influence game, a game that could not be played without having those two sides.

He's doing nothing to destroy the establishment, only seeking a higher position as a buyer.
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:50 AM
 
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Media holdings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization

Read his books, he talks about how he easily controls the media (and media consumers like you) through manipulation. Donald Trump Explained How To Dominate The Media: 'I Play To Peoples Fantasies'

Trump is The Media Trump Is a Master at Manipulating the Media - US News

He campaigned for governer all over the state of New York and then in the end refused to officially run unless unopposed. Look it up.

He has run for president multiple times. Donald Trump is a politician. And there is no such thing as an anti-establishment billionaire.

Trust me I agree with your sentiments about the government and the media. And because of those very convictions I could never support Trump.
But you would support a candidate who sanctioned the murder of 4 American citizens and stole highly classified documents....gotcha
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Trump IS the Establishment! Trump IS the Media! Trump is just another politician, he's been running for various political offices since the 80s, he just never won.
That's nonsense. The only other time he ran for President was with the Reform Party. He's always wanted to make a change to government for the better.
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:02 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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But you would support a candidate who sanctioned the murder of 4 American citizens and stole highly classified documents....gotcha
Of course there is no candidate who "sanctioned the murder of 4 American citizens" but let's not let facts interfere with political hyperbole, eh?
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:03 AM
 
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You people who get hung up on policies or even ideology are arguing the wrong election. In 2016, at least on the GOP side, those have become secondary. There are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo many Republicans who have just HAD IT with the scum GOP Establishment, and with Political Correctness. And they see 2016 as the chance to destroy both.
For me personally these days, I have only one thing to say to at least 90% of the political class (be they politicians, media, lobbyists, consultants, donors, campaign guys, staffers, etc). It's a two word expression and the first word starts with F.
I can see you are a classy and eloquent guy, capable of expressing the most subtle and profound thoughts in simple words. You're voting for Trump, I presume?
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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People are mad at DC politicians and the national news media and lobbyists that kiss their butt and their agenda. Just look at their approval ratings over the last few years. Then Marco Rubio gets up on a stage with all of them standing behind him and no one can figure out why he hasn't won any state?

If you want to fix Capitol Hill, relocate both the House and the Senate to the Mexican border along with the national news media that covers for them.
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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The republicans should have learned something from the aimless blowing up of the establishment all over the mideast during the Arab Spring. What you get when you take away 'the establishment' is generally worse than what you had before. Nature abhors a vacuum, and the republicans will create a yuuuuge vacuum. Worse than that sucking sound Perot was talking about years ago.
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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That's nonsense. The only other time he ran for President was with the Reform Party. He's always wanted to make a change to government for the better.
His Reform Party 'candiddacy' was hardly a serious effort. Like it or not, and you apparently support Donny so you probably don't, he is very much a part of the political establishment and a self-professed player in the establishment game of buying/selling influence.
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