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Old 02-29-2016, 07:15 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Main reason is I don't feel comfortable with dynasty politics, so no more Bushes or Clintons for at least a hundred years. I feel there should even be a Constitutional amendment prohibiting dynasties at the executive branch.

In my view, Obama's record is mixed, like that of almost every other human being, did some acceptable things, others suboptimal, others in very bad taste; the worst thing he did, in my view, was appoint Hillary Secretary of State, but I suppose he had to fulfill terms of what I imagine is some power sharing agreement at the upper party level.

At any rate, Hillary is a liar and otherwise an unsavory person, but so are a lot of other people. So what?

If the US has to be in decline, it seems that the formula democrat executive branch/republican legislative branch slows it, while one party dominating the entire government accelerates it. Still, I would not vote for Hillary, and if the choice is between her and some Rino, then I'd leave the executive portion of the ballot (which, by the way, is only a fraction of the entire ballot) blank or write in something.

But we could do a lot better, starting with freeing ourselves from the straight-jacket of childishly stupid ideologies and selfish factions.

This time around we have a chance to shake up the sterile so-called two-party system, yes, a shot in the dark, but perhaps better than sure, even if slow, decline.

Good Luck!
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Old 02-29-2016, 07:17 AM
 
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I hope those of you who won't vote for Hillary based on her spouse's transgressions are applying that same Litmus Test to Trump and his x-porn star wife.[/url]
For one thing, Bill Clinton committee sexual crimes in the White House, in the Oval Office, while he was president of the U.S..
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Old 02-29-2016, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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$153 million in speaking fees?

Some say talk is cheap. Not if you want the Clintons. They are worth every penny of it when it comes to Wall Street and Big Pharma, and Big Industry that adores slave labor under the guise of "free trade".

Every party has its demagogues. The Democrats are blessed with the Clintons who have done more to destroy the middle class than any demagogues in the Republican Party.

I'll be searching for a Green Party candidate.
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Old 02-29-2016, 07:31 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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For one thing, Bill Clinton committee sexual crimes in the White House, in the Oval Office, while he was president of the U.S..
Like he was the first and last one to get a blow job in the Oval Office. I'm not saying it was right but far worse things have happened in the Oval Office under Bush that got thousands of Americans killed. Aside from that, since when is a spouse held accountable and punished for their partner's cheating? I believe they both learned from that awful footnote in history. They had a lot of marriage counseling afterward and moved forward better people.
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Old 02-29-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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I was a Republican for many years and switched parties to Democrat in 2008.

Hillary gets my vote in the 2016 primary as well as the 2016 general election. My spouse is still a registered Republican and will also be voting for Hillary in the general election(or Bernie if he gets the nomination). We live in a purple state, so these votes really make a difference

The GOP has taken a turn for the worse and I am glad that I am no longer a Republican.
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Old 02-29-2016, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I don't trust her, plain and simple. She seems to be clueless that Obama alienated many people that voted for him, including me.

At this point it doesn't matter what she says-TPTB want her in office to continue and expand the War on "Terrorism" and pass the TPP. No thanks, I will not be responsible.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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I don't trust her, plain and simple. She seems to be clueless that Obama alienated many people that voted for him, including me.

At this point it doesn't matter what she says-TPTB want her in office to continue and expand the War on "Terrorism" and pass the TPP. No thanks, I will not be responsible.
Exactly. I do NOT trust her to act in the best interest of the country and its citizens. I DO trust her to look after her own self interests and line her pocket with even more Wall Street and lobbyist money.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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Hillary is the penultimate politician. Nobody better.


But we've had enough of go nowhere political leadership. Now it is time to get something done.


I don't think I could vote for him, but I was thinking earlier today that Trump would just tell an a$$ like Mitch McConnell to go f himself. He wouldn't worry about the "politics". For guys like McConnell and Reid it would be like steeping into the ring with Mohamed Ali in his prime!


Hillary, on the other hand, would play politics with these fools and nothing will get done (except more of the "lining their pockets" with taxpayer monies).
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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My main reason - she belongs in jail.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:25 AM
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Clinton voters not only get Bill, they get Huma and her husband, this guy:

Weiner caught sending dirty messages and photos a year after his sexting scandal | New York Post
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