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Old 02-29-2016, 11:59 AM
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But in recent elections, New York State has gone Democratic by a 25 point margin. That's an unplausible switch for NY to go Republican. It's one of the few states Obama did better in 2012 than 2008.
Only because McCain was seen as less unctious and opportunistic than Romney.

Nearer the coast, NYC also has no qualms about voting for anything with an R at the end of it--case in point: Rudolph Giuliani. They can only take so much David Dinkinses. Bill de Blasio won with almost no support because the race was so nebulous; on balance New Yorkers really dislike his politics.
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Old 02-29-2016, 11:59 AM
 
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Trump is loved in New York so it is possible.
All he will need is about 40% of the New York City proper
votes to carry the state.
Look at this map then ask yourself what happens if
Hillary doesn't win by a landslide in NYC boundaries.

All he needs is to not get blown out in NYC, then he wins
the state.
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:05 PM
 
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But in recent elections, New York State has gone Democratic by a 25 point margin. That's an unplausible switch for NY to go Republican. ....
Nate Silver said it best today.
Major partisan realignments do happen in America — on average about once every 40 years. The last one, which involved the unwinding of the New Deal coalition between Northern and Southern Democrats, is variously dated as having occurred in 1968, 1972 and 1980. There are also a lot of false alarms, elections described as realignments that turn out not to be. This time, we really might be in the midst of one.

I agree with him. This election and electoral map won't look anything like the maps of the last 24 years. The Democrats have lost support of all but their hard core card carrying base, and African Americans. This won't win them many states at all.
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:12 PM
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Trump is loved in New York so it is possible.
All he will need is about 40% of the New York City proper
votes to carry the state.
Look at this map then ask yourself what happens if
Hillary doesn't win by a landslide in NYC boundaries.

All he needs is to not get blown out in NYC, then he wins
the state.
Sounds unlikely with Trump on the ticket.
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Dothan AL
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I pointed in line in a hispanic grocery the other day to a NY Daily News where its editors had Shopped a KKK hood onto Trump, and I said, "They really don't like him, do they. It makes me want to vote for him even more." And the other person in line said, "Yeah I'm gonna vote for him."

They're tired of debased policy and invasive, heavy-handedly imposed domestic socialist mush from progressives with histories of violence.
Yea, I hear you, can dig it; I pointed in line in a Hispanic grocery the other day too
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Yeah when it comes to the working class vote in the Northeast and Midwest, every election cycle there is speculating that it could turn red, but it always goes blue. The same will be the case in 2016.
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:27 PM
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Nate Silver said it best today.
Major partisan realignments do happen in America — on average about once every 40 years. The last one, which involved the unwinding of the New Deal coalition between Northern and Southern Democrats, is variously dated as having occurred in 1968, 1972 and 1980. There are also a lot of false alarms, elections described as realignments that turn out not to be. This time, we really might be in the midst of one.

I agree with him. This election and electoral map won't look anything like the maps of the last 24 years. The Democrats have lost support of all but their hard core card carrying base, and African Americans. This won't win them many states at all.
Except it's unlikely a partisan realignment will cause New York to switch parties with Trump on the ticket. Maybe shift the margins a bit or change regional distribution of votes, but that's it.
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:31 PM
 
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Sure he could. Probably not even for dogcatcher.

"But the poll also found that Trump had a low favorability rating: Just 25% of New York voters viewed him favorably, compared with 71% who view him unfavorably. In upstate, he was slightly more liked: 66% unfavorable to 28% favorable."

Trump says he's 'most popular person' in upstate New York
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump is loved in New York so it is possible.
All he will need is about 40% of the New York City proper
votes to carry the state.
Do you live there? Nobody who does would ever make such a silly statement.

Check out the Daily News covers of him.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dail...=1344&bih=1255
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The Post is kinda known for being a semi-tabloid thing.

Did this issue claim any Elvis sightings?

Yes, he was early voting for Trump.
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