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Old 03-01-2016, 08:56 PM
 
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You are right neither are good, but I respect Sanders at least he has some proposals on paper where a person can make a judgement. Trump one of his slogans is " I love the poorly educated", well the poorly educated love some Trump since Fox polls show them giving trump yuge support. Trump knows he duping the ignorant unwashed masses he is not stupid.
So a guy can put complete lies on paper and you respect him for that? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he doesn't realize they are lies, but that is even worse because then he is just not intelligent enough to be president. Many of the things he has "on paper" are just wishy-washy Utopian fantasies that will never happen, as an elected politician he SHOULD know this, so they are likely just lies to buy votes from people that don't realize they are lies.
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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You are right neither are good, but I respect Sanders at least he has some proposals on paper where a person can make a judgement. Trump one of his slogans is " I love the poorly educated", well the poorly educated love some Trump since Fox polls show them giving trump yuge support. Trump knows he duping the ignorant unwashed masses he is not stupid.

Obviously someone bought into the sound bite in the ad already running against Trump.

Yeah...I love the poorly educated. Those of us who heard the ENTIRE clip (and know that this is how Trump talks) know that it was in response to last week's win and exit polls which had him winning every demo. "I won with [fill in the blank]. I love [fill in the blank]." He also noted that he won with the well educated (and loves the well-educated), but the ad didn't highlight that. How transparent. And clear that the only low information dupes to which that ad is directed, are those who didn't hear what he said in its entirety.

And BTW, people, anyone who thinks Bernie's fed up working-class supporters are going to flit over to Hillary's camp have a strudel in their noodle.
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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...then there are the vast deluded right that keeps working hard, parting with their hard-earned dollars, without getting any further ahead, all the while, the top 5% is laughing and getting richer and richer for 20 straight years.

Yet this poor short-sighted fellow thinks that leftist politicians and freeloaders are to blame for all America's problems when the real truth is that their chosen political party has been bought and paid for with corporate money and except for the trickle-down incentives (subsidies) and the Making Murica Great marketing message is, in fact, little different from the other guys.
They don't have to get ahead, they are ahead, before they even begin. By having a rational and logical philosophy that recognizes individual rights and freedom and Capitalism, the toolbox is full and a good life is assured. WITHOUT STEALING FROM OTHERS.

Promoting Sanders is promoting envy and theft and freeloading as basic social values. Let's try some good old fashioned honest greed. Let's try a billionaire. Let's try someone who has actually BUILT things, instead of voting on laws to TAKE things.
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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Bernie seems to appeal to the young people, the wild eyed idealists. If Bernie does not get the nomination they will probably find something better to do on Election Day.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:00 PM
 
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Bernie seems to appeal to the young people, the wild eyed idealists. If Bernie does not get the nomination they will probably find something better to do on Election Day.

Funny how these kids are often called idealists. Like the "ideal" situation is a system where we take the wealth of one person and give it to another. Where we hamper and enslave the producers at the expense of the moochers. With idealism like this, who needs fatalism?
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:03 PM
 
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...then there are the vast deluded right that keeps working hard, parting with their hard-earned dollars, without getting any further ahead, all the while, the top 5% is laughing and getting richer and richer for 20 straight years.

Yet this poor short-sighted fellow thinks that leftist politicians and freeloaders are to blame for all America's problems when the real truth is that their chosen political party has been bought and paid for with corporate money and except for the trickle-down incentives (subsidies) and the Making Murica Great marketing message is, in fact, little different from the other guys.
That 5% isn't some set group. The top 5% changes over time, but of course those in favor of redistribution would like you to imagine a small, monocle-wearing, mustache-twirling elite laughing with their piles of money that they've "hoarded" over time and kept from the rest of us...as if there's only one set amount of wealth, and the more they have, the less there is for others.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Early America
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Maybe they aren't as bad quite yet since they don't have those "Hope" signs or t-shirts with Bernie on it, but with the dumb slogan of "#FeeltheBern" (Similar to "Yes we can!") and his cult like following makes me feel like its Obama 2.0. People are acting like he is their savior. What do you think?
I haven't seen anything as disturbing as the '08 Obama supporters. They looked like they were having some kind of religious experience and he was their messiah.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:40 PM
 
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They don't have to get ahead, they are ahead, before they even begin. By having a rational and logical philosophy that recognizes individual rights and freedom and Capitalism, the toolbox is full and a good life is assured. WITHOUT STEALING FROM OTHERS.

Promoting Sanders is promoting envy and theft and freeloading as basic social values. Let's try some good old fashioned honest greed. Let's try a billionaire. Let's try someone who has actually BUILT things, instead of voting on laws to TAKE things.
Nope. Male hourly wage has stagnated for 40 years while the richest people in the country who buy your politician are laughing their heads off at people like you. Get an education and you wont have to work as a shill for the Koch brothers anymore.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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There is a segment of haters in society who favor redistributive theft. We can always see a few of these types floating in the atmosphere. Most are reconciled to the limits of their own lives, resentful of same, and ready to start taking what they could never hope to earn.

Bernie Sanders is the candidate for those people. They can't win, but they can complain. And the Sanders campaign is basically a complaint. A futile and substanceless envy-driven whinefest.

May this philosophy rot in hell.
I love how the Federal Reserve can create TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS out of thin air via corporate bailouts and quantitative easing-to hand over to banks and corporations -THAT FAILED through their own greed and corruption-and we won't hear a peep from posters like this.

All this unprecedented money created since 2009 has gone to less than 1% of the population while at the same time 90% of Americans have seen their incomes in stagnation or decline. It was and continues to be the largest wealth transfer-from hard working Americans to trans-national leeches, nationless and foreign institutions/banks.

But you still seem to think we are "jealous" of the theft instead of trying to save our nation from turning into a population in destitution. Our economy is 70% consumer driven and cannot/will not grow when the majority are falling behind. You support nationless banks/corporations on their way to global economic hegemony at the cost of our own national sovereignty. Some patriot you are.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:47 PM
 
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I love how the Federal Reserve can create TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS out of thin air via corporate bailouts and quantitative easing-to hand over to banks and corporations -THAT FAILED through their own greed and corruption-and we won't hear a peep from posters like this.

All this unprecedented money created since 2009 has gone to less than 1% of the population while at the same time 90% of Americans have seen their incomes in stagnantion or decline. It was and continues to be the largest wealth transfer-from hard working Americans to trans-national leeches, nationless and foreign institutions/banks.

But you still seem to think we are "jealous" of the theft instead of trying to save our nation from turning into a population in destitution. Our economy is 70% consumer driven and cannot/will not grow when he majority are falling behind. You support nationless banks/corporations on their way to global economic hegemony at the cost of our own national sovereignty. Some patriot you are.
Part of the tragedy of what happened in 2008 is that we ARE a consumer driven society and the whole ZIRP scenario makes that even worse. Nobody was saving money back then to provide a cushion for any downturn, and now we are at a point where saving money is the equivalent of losing money in most "safe" places.
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