New York State Trump University fraud lawsuit gets the green light again! (employment, drugs)
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If NC State guaranteed qualified instructors and classes but instead hired jewelry salesman who failed to respond to your requests for information and materials and didn't show up as promised to supervise lab work, then your "degree" is worthless and yes you have grounds to pursue legal options against them.
Actually, that sounds like most universities and colleges nowadays....
Students expected that they would get what they paid for - Trump’s real estate techniques taught by his “hand-picked” professors. In deposition Trump admits that he never met the teachers and had no role in picking them. Most teachers had no real estate experience and were hired through an agency that specialized in high powered sales people. This is the crux of the lawsuit and in deposition Trump has conceded these facts.
The "95% very satisfactory ratings" doesn't hold up when you consider that 25% of students asked for refunds.
The satisfaction surveys were also taken part way through the courses when students were still on the hook and gullible. Students were also promised a lifetime mentor and negative reviews would have worked against that. It turns out however that the mentors got their commissions up front and had no desire or incentive to keep up relationships.
Schools like this have been approved by the federal government to qualify for student loans for their students for decades.
Story after story in the newspapers about these scams -- and even more stories on the internet -- and the suckers keep falling for these schools.
A lot of people, frankly, just go to get the loan and spend it on other things.
You can go to a community college and study real estate very cheaply.
Trump offered seminars, and students who chose to keep taking them and paying more each time -- and then giving their instructors rave reviews -- have only themselves to blame if their "Get rich quick" dreams didn't come true. As for the ones who were too naive or uninformed, the government is also to blame for the reasons I have given.
I can't trust articles against Trump written by Red State and Politico. Politico makes Hillary look like the most honest person in the world.
Exactly.
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Politico says Trump wants all muslims to wear arm bands, and within the first 100 days in office he will nuke Europe. These reporters are full of it. No way all these people got refunds.
LOL
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Libs are mad because a bunch of idiot libs looking for success with no work are the ones who enrolled.
So true.
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What? To make money in real estate you have to buy property. What are these students thinking? Trump was going to buy for them?
You need a lot of money to make money in real estate. Some of these students were broke. Who puts 30 grand on a credit card? Anyone with a clue pays their card in full every month. I mean, this is a joke right?
The same thing is occurring right now but it's voters picking Trump for president instead of students signing up for classes. Voting for Trump is falling for the same rhetoric that those students fell for. Same man, same song and dance but instead of selling real estate methods, he's selling himself as the president. Gullible voters are doing the same thing that those students did and will get the same result- nothing but a facade.
That sounds like Obama. "I'm voting for him because he'll pay for my food and rent!"
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Yea, I'm going to be a real estate wiz. I can't afford the seminars, but I'm going to come up with $500,000 minimum to make money in real estate. And if that doesn't work, I will blame Trump.
Yeah! I've listened to Trump speak, and I'm not rich! Waaaah!
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I'm going to sign up to college to become a sports announcer for a major network. If I don't get to be a rich sports caster, I'm going to sue.
I studied philosophy at a university and I'm not a great philosopher. I studied art and I'm not a great artist. I studied music and I'm not a great musician. I want my money back. I paid to be a success in those fields and it didn't happen!
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On the website 'ripoff report' (which can be entertaining reading), there is a section involving Trump University. I ignored reading any recent reports, but the ones from 2009 and earlier (prior to the year the current lawsuits were filed) are interesting:
"Trump claims 98% of the people who filled out student evaluations said they were satisfied with Trump University. But that too might be fishy. The 98% rating is based on roughly 10,000 completed surveys. Yet court documents reveal this breakdown of attendees at Trump University over the years: 80,308 showed up at a free event, 9,208 attended a three-day workshop and only 794 purchased one of the costlier custom programs. So it’s possible most or even all of those 10,000 evaluations were completed by people who only attended the free program and never paid a dime to Trump University. We certainly don’t know how satisfied the 794 folks who paid top dollar feel (except for those participating in the class action lawsuit)."
So we're talking about 798 people who had plenty of opportunities to test the waters -- free event and a three-day workshop.
dumb-butt should have settled this thing before he started all this running for prez stuff. Then it would have been kept quiet, and he wouldn't be facing the embarrassment of being shown to be a big fraud - at least on the university thing. He still has lots of potential for being shown a big fraud with many other things.
Let him ef-up his businesses, fine....Keep his hands off important stuff like our economy, our defense, our national security......
Trump Airlines
Trump Vodka
The Bankruptcies - several
The Hair
The Marriages
Trump Mortgage
Trump: The Game
Trump: The University
Trump Casinos
Trump: The Fake Tan
Trump: The Moved PGA Event
Trump: The magazine
Trump: The restaurant
Really? Can you point out a few 'real' universities featuring blatant lies about their faculties in their catalogs?
Universities and colleges lie all the time. Usually by omission.
They all promise caring faculty, personal attention, and preparation for a career.
That's a laugh.
The "caring faculty" turn out to be graduate student teaching assistants, the "personal attention" turns out to be lecture halls with 300 students, and the "preparation for a career" turns out to be going back home to live in mommy's basement.
Let's take, for example, a major in music at any given college or university. They'll say, "Graduates of our program have careers as performers, teachers and music industry professionals."
Sure thing.
There is only room for about 500 classical music soloists at any given time who can actually make a living as performers -- world-wide
Same with jazz and popular music groups.
Symphony orchestras typically get 300 applicants for each open seat.
Private music teachers? They're like rabbits. Anyone who has studied an instrument for a few years is qualified to teach beginners. So there are way too many teachers chasing way too few students.
College music professors and instructors? Sorry, that boat is perpetually full.
If the college were honest, it would say that studying music enriches your life and is a good concentration for a liberal arts major. But don't expect it to lead to a career.
No actual proof of that. The Trump bullying tactics and hysteria are really becoming "old and annoying" to an increasing number of Americans. He can't and won't dodge accountability forever. Defrauding senior citizens is nothing to be proud of, even if you make money from it! Some of the extreme high pressure tactics against senior citizens by Trump University are alarming. But let us attack the ethnic pride of a Latino judge (born in Indiana) to deflect from Trump's responsibility to Americans as a candidate for the highest office in the USA. The public is wise to him now and expects straight answers.
I strongly encourage people to consider Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate, as Hilary also has negative factors (email-gate, Benghazi). This may be our best chance to send a strong message to the two major parties that have become too corrupt and ineffective.
Should ethnic pride include aiding and abetting illegal aliens of one's own ethnic group?
"The law firm suing Trump University was founded by a wealthy San Diego lawyer with close ties to the Clintons who served a two-year sentence in federal prison for his role in a kickback scheme to mobilize plaintiffs for class-action lawsuits. William Lerach, best known for winning more than $7 billion in legal settlements of a class action suit he brought against Enron, was found guilty in 2007 of a kickback scheme in which he his firm used intermediaries to pay clients with large stock portfolios a percentage of the law firm’s $11.3 million profits for agreeing to be plaintiffs in 225 class action and shareholder lawsuits, spanning the period 1979 to 2005. WND reported documents released Wednesday in the lawsuit accusing Trump University of fraud confirmed the law firm behind the suit paid Bill and Hillary Clinton a total of $675,000 for speeches."
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