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Old 03-16-2016, 05:15 AM
 
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Built in the Republican nomination process are unbound delegates. There are 112 delegates who are unbound because their states and territories – North Dakota, Colorado, Wyoming, American Samoa and Guam – hold no primaries or caucuses. Instead, delegates are chosen at state convention without reference to voters’ views on the presidential candidates. Rubio has 168 delegates, not a small number like Carson's and Bush's. It could make the difference in who wins first vote of the convention. So what happens to them? What do you think will happen?

What happens to Marco Rubio's delegates? | MSNBC

Most Of Marco Rubio’s Delegates Will Probably Still Have To Vote For Him

Republican delegate allocation rules
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:25 AM
 
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They will have to vote for him on the first ballot, but after that, who knows?

The Republican convention will be something to watch, for sure. There are only a tiny handful of folks who are so old as to even recall the last time a convention was brokered in the old style. Some conventions of the past lasted for over a month. I expect this one to go for 2 weeks or more, as a nominee MUST be presented before they adjourn.

Nobody will be smiling when it's over except the drunks. Even they may be cryin' the blues as they leave.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:31 AM
 
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... Rubio has 168 delegates, not a small number like Carson's and Bush's. It could make the difference in who wins first vote of the convention. So what happens to them? What do you think will happen?
Here's one thing that could happen. -> Trump gives Rubio a job.

Rubio's career as an elected politician is done for now. But if he still wants to say prominent in government, then he could make a "deal" with Trump to trade support for those delegates for a cabinet post or something similar which the President controls.

If Trump is a little short of the magic number, this could end a contested or brokered election.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:32 AM
 
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They will have to vote for him on the first ballot, but after that, who knows?

The Republican convention will be something to watch, for sure. There are only a tiny handful of folks who are so old as to even recall the last time a convention was brokered in the old style. Some conventions of the past lasted for over a month. I expect this one to go for 2 weeks or more, as a nominee MUST be presented before they adjourn.

Nobody will be smiling when it's over except the drunks. Even they may be cryin' the blues as they leave.
Not all will, it depends on the state rules, that is why it is being talked about. Rubio's delegates, which I just saw on CNN were 170, are enough that they could be used to push Trump or Cruz over the finish line first vote if a large number of them became unbound.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:35 AM
 
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Here's one thing that could happen. -> Trump gives Rubio a job.

Rubio's career as an elected politician is done for now. But if still wants to say prominent in government, then he could make a "deal" with Trump to trade support for those delegates for a cabinet post or something similar which the President controls.

If Trump is a little short of the magic number, this could end a contested or brokered election.
I suspect Trump is looking at that, just now on CNN he talked in terms that seem to indicate he is prepared to let bygones be bygones. Rubio's endorsement would do far more for him than Christie's or Carson's. I might be able to convince myself to vote for him if Rubio were his VP.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:35 AM
 
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Here's one thing that could happen. -> Trump gives Rubio a job.

Rubio's career as an elected politician is done for now. But if he still wants to say prominent in government, then he could make a "deal" with Trump to trade support for those delegates for a cabinet post or something similar which the President controls.

If Trump is a little short of the magic number, this could end a contested or brokered election.
Or, alternatively, the establishment could set him up with a lucrative thinktank job . . . . he does not wish to be a persona non-grata. The Trump administration is 4 years at most . . . .establishment is forever.

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Old 03-16-2016, 05:38 AM
 
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I suspect Trump is looking at that, just now on CNN he talked in terms that seem to indicate he is prepared to let bygones be bygones. Rubio's endorsement would do far more for him than Christie's or Carson's. I might be able to convince myself to vote for him if Rubio were his VP.
Indeed. This could be why Trump spoke well of Rubio during his "press conference without the press" (lol) last night.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:41 AM
 
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Here's one thing that could happen. -> Trump gives Rubio a job.

Rubio's career as an elected politician is done for now. But if he still wants to say prominent in government, then he could make a "deal" with Trump to trade support for those delegates for a cabinet post or something similar which the President controls.

If Trump is a little short of the magic number, this could end a contested or brokered election.
I think Trump has already told Rubio that if he were President, he would support Rubio's goal of running for Florida governor in 2 years. Trump is a deal maker and Rubio needs a good paying job.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:42 AM
 
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I suspect Trump is looking at that, just now on CNN he talked in terms that seem to indicate he is prepared to let bygones be bygones. Rubio's endorsement would do far more for him than Christie's or Carson's. I might be able to convince myself to vote for him if Rubio were his VP.
With or without Rubio's endorsement I have trouble even thinking of supporting Trump. I think, for now, our party is damaged badly. A Trump nomination will result is just what we say in 2012: many Republicans will stay home. The only positive thing, he should pick up a lot of Democrat votes. A brokered convention or contested will hurt, but may open the door to the future: If it is contested no one really wins, certainly not Trump and I would be surprised if Rubio endorses Trump. He may play a Bush and just not endorse anyone.

The one exception might be like Marino suggested: Trump has already assured Rubio he will help him get elected as governor. That is fine except for a couple of things: how much can we trust Trump to keep his word and what happens if he wins in November but turns out to be a total loser as president. I think Rubio would be better off hoping for Bush's help in 2018, if he really wants to be the governor.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:43 AM
 
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Or, alternatively, the establishment could set him up with a lucrative thinktank job . . . . he does not wish to be a persona non-grata. The Trump administration is 4 years at most . . . .establishment is forever. Mick
Hmm. Trump has broken the back of the existing establishment. If he wins the nomination, Trump becomes the GOP establishment. The Romney/Bush/Rovian bunch will be relegated to the sidelines much like liberal/progressives have been pushed to the side by Clinton's new democrats.
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