Trump Supporters, One Way Or The Other, GOP Will Deny Trump The Presidency (thoughts, represent)
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I understand.....but why the change saying now he won't get to 1237...just because of Kasich winning Ohio?
It just is much harder. He can get to 1237. We will just have to see if he does. And if he doesn't, then the convention delegates will have to vote over, with some people changing their votes, until someone gets to the magic number of half of the delegates plus 1. The thing is, those delegates could vote for Cruz or Kasich, or someone entirely different. It becomes an open convention. But that doesn't mean that Trump won't triumph. It just makes the process that much more exciting.
You left one other option out, conveniently no doubt.
3) The one where never-Trumps hold their nose and back Trump. Those are the ones who need to man up. The GOP allowed Trump to run in the party and now they need to take responsibility and save the party or they are responsible for it's destruction.
If the party, that has always said, people need to take personal responsibility for their actions and their life can't follow their own principles it isn't worth saving. The voters are the party. Without them there is no one to follow and no leader necessary to mess it all up. Control your leaders or remove them.
Trump would go Independent and possibly take Cruz with him.
Millions would vote Trump and deny the GOP the Presidency either by winning or splitting the vote. Trump has a lot of loyal followers.
Hillary would love all of this.
Oh, yes, she would especially given the fact that the majority of women of both parties have very unfavorable opinions of Trump. All Hillary needs to do is go to the video tape of Trump's comments on women in general, and specific women like Megan Kelly.
He would have to be gagged to make not similar comments to Hillary in a debate. Would Trump "get out of my face" as Hillary said to Lazio?
NO candidate will win the election without the support of the majority of women's votes.
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa
It is nearly impossible to win outside of the party system in the US. It is far easier to take over a party as Trump has demonstrated.
It's absolutely impossible if you don't try, eh?
Trump just may have had both enough $$$ and name recognition to pull it off, if choosing to climb into the establishment bed he claims to not be a part of turns out to be his undoing he will having gotten a very expensive lesson in the way the game is played in the US and will have blown the chance he had to try and change that way, eh?
He chose to join the supposed enemy and if it bites him in the butt he'll learn Prince and pauper alike usually pick what they plant.
I don't agree. If they go down this road, it will be crystal clear to everyone that the entire system is corrupt. That votes don't matter.
And they can forget about getting a vote from any fair minded person like me. They can go F themselves....and then you can welcome in President Hillary. After 8 more years, you won't recognize this country.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
The GOP establishment doesn't want Trump.
Trump is not "their man".
And if he was as good at hiring the right people as he claims he would've known that from the start and not hopped into the bed of the establishment he claims to not be a part of. If you stick your head in the lion's mouth you shouldn't sing the blues if you're bitten.
The GOP establishment doesn't want Trump.
Trump is not "their man".
Have you been paying attention? Its not just the GOP establishment. Its also conservatives and pretty much everyone else that is a REAL Republican. Those voting for Trumps are Republicans who should actually be Democrats and Independents.
The GOP Establishment is making it crystal clear that there is no way they are going to allow Trump to assume the presidency. This will go down one of two ways....
#1) The GOP will find a way to deny Trump the nomination at the convention, or
#2) There is a summit planned in D.C. Thursday to discuss how to launch a so-called "true conservative" third party run if Trump is able to win the nomination outright, which would all but guarantee a Democrat win....
No matter which way it goes down, Trump loses. This is just the facts whether it's fair or not. Wouldn't you rather have it go way #1, where at least the party could at least still have a chance of defeating the Democrats, even if you don't like the candidate? Or is sending a message to the Establishment so important to you that you are willing to basically have another Obama in office for 4 more years in order to send it?
Since when does the Republican party have the right to deny the votes of the people?
We have a ballot box to elect the candidate of our choice. If the establishment refuses Trump ,we will vote them out of office.We The People were dead right that the establishment is one sick body who are corrupt and power hungry. They will not deny We The People without repercussions of great magnitude.
Trump will crush Hillary at rhe ballot box. Hillary will regret ever going into politics after Trump cremates her and her image.
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Originally Posted by Taratova
Since when does the Republican party have the right to deny the votes of the people?
Because the GOP is a party, not the nation. They make their own rules, just as the Dems do and any other political party.
They have their system in place. All of the rules, not just some of them. If Trump doesn't have a majority going into the convention, he, just like the others, is subject to ALL of them, not just SOME of them.
As someone else said, close doesn't count here. This is not horseshoes, dancing or hand grenades.
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