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It's hilarious how everyone has their own scenario about how Trump is going to be left out, start a third party, start a riot and so on. Everybody, keep your shirts on and calm down. Let the process work and stop assuming it won't.
We're way passed that point, the establishment has show how far they will go to prevent what the voters want, there is no going back now.
Trump and his fans seems to think the GOP convention rules were created just to try and shut him out from getting the nomination. They need to grow up and learn the process. As per the rules, convention delegates will be allowed to change their votes if a candidate doesn't reach the 1237 threshold on their first ballot...or before the convention begins.
If they do deny Trump, the party is finished- it's already on life support. To send a message that who the people want elected doesn't matter is terrible. The establishment needs to ride off into the sunset- they've made millions illegally, and can live like kings until they die.
Trump and his fans seems to think the GOP convention rules were created just to try and shut him out from getting the nomination. They need to grow up and learn the process. As per the rules, convention delegates will be allowed to change their votes if a candidate doesn't reach the 1237 threshold on their first ballot...or before the convention begins.
True, so since Cruz and Trump will have the vast majority of delegates, those "available" delegates have no one else to vote for except Trump or Cruz. If the establishment put up another candidate, there aren't enough available delegates to even come close to what Cruz and Trump already have. Therefore, the establishment cannot put another person in there and get the required delegates needed. Trump and Cruz delegates already committed to them are not going to change their vote for an establishment person. Any way you slice it, the nominee will be Cruz or Trump.
I have no obligation to vote for someone who I find morally reprehensible and possibily dangerous, along with being toxic to our nation. Matter of fact, feeling the way I do, I have a moral responsibility to vote against him. I will not vote for Trump, what very little chance that was once left that I might ended when he basically threatened violence would happen if I didn't, like some mob goon demanding protection money to keep a store or restaurant from being set on fire. No, the debate really is whether I will vote for Hillary or a 3rd party candidate.
I agree 110%!
I can't stand Hillary and I lean right on most issues but Trump is a joke of a candidate. A disgrace.
It's amazing to me that his supporters can't see that he is playing to what they want to hear.
This is a man who just said that his top foreign policy adviser was himself!
I'll easily vote for Hillary or some 3rd party before him.
I've always participated in voting but I don't think I have ever felt more eager and engaged to get out and cast my vote, if it means helping to stop Trump.
Trump and his fans seems to think the GOP convention rules were created just to try and shut him out from getting the nomination. They need to grow up and learn the process. As per the rules, convention delegates will be allowed to change their votes if a candidate doesn't reach the 1237 threshold on their first ballot...or before the convention begins.
Have you not seen the GOP do everything they could to deny Trump the majority of the delegates?
Yes, the rules are set up to keep out candidates the party doesn't want.
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Originally Posted by marino760
True, so since Cruz and Trump will have the vast majority of delegates, those "available" delegates have no one else to vote for except Trump or Cruz. If the establishment put up another candidate, there aren't enough available delegates to even come close to what Cruz and Trump already have. Therefore, the establishment cannot put another person in there and get the required delegates needed. Trump and Cruz delegates already committed to them are not going to change their vote for an establishment person. Any way you slice it, the nominee will be Cruz or Trump.
While it is true that only Trump, or Cruz can get the required number of delegates to win the nomination outright, it is not true that one of them will get the nomination. If anyone fails to get the majority of the delegates, the nomination will be up for grabs.
Wouldn't you rather have it go way #1, where at least the party could at least still have a chance of defeating the Democrats, even if you don't like the candidate?
I am voting Republican for the first time in many years, and my vote is for Trump, because he's not like your typical Republican politician.
I won't vote Democrat because I do not believe this country needs to go down the same roads it is going down.
That said, if Trump does not win the nomination, I will either write him in or not vote at all. I do not believe in the Republican or Democratic way, I vote according to who fits my personal beliefs the closest, and Trump is the closest to that.
It's hilarious how everyone has their own scenario about how Trump is going to be left out, start a third party, start a riot and so on. Everybody, keep your shirts on and calm down. Let the process work and stop assuming it won't.
Sir, riot gears and tear gases are on backorder, thanks to the City of Baltimore. We must order now.
I don't agree.
If they go down this road, it will be crystal clear to everyone that the entire system is corrupt. That votes don't matter.
And they can forget about getting a vote from any fair minded person like me. They can go F themselves....and then you can welcome in President Hillary. After 8 more years, you won't recognize this country.
...As per the rules, convention delegates will be allowed to change their votes if a candidate doesn't reach the 1237 threshold on their first ballot...or before the convention begins.
As per rules, only Trump meets requirement of Rule 40. So even if he doesn't get 1237 (he will), he is the only one who can be considered on 2nd, 3rd, etc. ballot.
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