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Old 03-17-2016, 02:13 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Trump supporters,


The GOP Establishment is making it crystal clear that there is no way they are going to allow Trump to assume the presidency. This will go down one of two ways....

#1) The GOP will find a way to deny Trump the nomination at the convention, or

#2) There is a summit planned in D.C. Thursday to discuss how to launch a so-called "true conservative" third party run if Trump is able to win the nomination outright, which would all but guarantee a Democrat win....

No matter which way it goes down, Trump loses. This is just the facts whether it's fair or not. Wouldn't you rather have it go way #1, where at least the party could at least still have a chance of defeating the Democrats, even if you don't like the candidate? Or is sending a message to the Establishment so important to you that you are willing to basically have another Obama in office for 4 more years in order to send it?
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Old 03-17-2016, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I think Trump sees it coming too, that is why he is starting with this "There will be riots" business. The GOP can not allow this loose cannon to represent their party, he is 180 out of phase with everything they stand for.

The next couple of months are going to be very interesting, and I sincerely hope they find a way to squash this bug before he does more damage to our country than he already has.

Don
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:45 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Trump supporters,


The GOP Establishment is making it crystal clear that there is no way they are going to allow Trump to assume the presidency. This will go down one of two ways....

#1) The GOP will find a way to deny Trump the nomination at the convention, or

#2) There is a summit planned in D.C. Thursday to discuss how to launch a so-called "true conservative" third party run if Trump is able to win the nomination outright, which would all but guarantee a Democrat win....

No matter which way it goes down, Trump loses. This is just the facts whether it's fair or not. Wouldn't you rather have it go way #1, where at least the party could at least still have a chance of defeating the Democrats, even if you don't like the candidate? Or is sending a message to the Establishment so important to you that you are willing to basically have another Obama in office for 4 more years in order to send it?
In non-Cult world, assuming the Presidency requires the support of the voters, not the GOP.
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:55 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Trump supporters,


The GOP Establishment is making it crystal clear that there is no way they are going to allow Trump to assume the presidency. This will go down one of two ways....

#1) The GOP will find a way to deny Trump the nomination at the convention, or

#2) There is a summit planned in D.C. Thursday to discuss how to launch a so-called "true conservative" third party run if Trump is able to win the nomination outright, which would all but guarantee a Democrat win....

No matter which way it goes down, Trump loses. This is just the facts whether it's fair or not. Wouldn't you rather have it go way #1, where at least the party could at least still have a chance of defeating the Democrats, even if you don't like the candidate? Or is sending a message to the Establishment so important to you that you are willing to basically have another Obama in office for 4 more years in order to send it?
I don't agree.
If they go down this road, it will be crystal clear to everyone that the entire system is corrupt. That votes don't matter.
And they can forget about getting a vote from any fair minded person like me. They can go F themselves....and then you can welcome in President Hillary. After 8 more years, you won't recognize this country.
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:58 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Trump would go Independent and possibly take Cruz with him.

Millions would vote Trump and deny the GOP the Presidency either by winning or splitting the vote. Trump has a lot of loyal followers.

Hillary would love all of this.
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper 88 View Post
Trump supporters,


The GOP Establishment is making it crystal clear that there is no way they are going to allow Trump to assume the presidency. This will go down one of two ways....

#1) The GOP will find a way to deny Trump the nomination at the convention, or

#2) There is a summit planned in D.C. Thursday to discuss how to launch a so-called "true conservative" third party run if Trump is able to win the nomination outright, which would all but guarantee a Democrat win....

No matter which way it goes down, Trump loses. This is just the facts whether it's fair or not. Wouldn't you rather have it go way #1, where at least the party could at least still have a chance of defeating the Democrats, even if you don't like the candidate? Or is sending a message to the Establishment so important to you that you are willing to basically have another Obama in office for 4 more years in order to send it?
You left one other option out, conveniently no doubt.

3) The one where never-Trumps hold their nose and back Trump. Those are the ones who need to man up. The GOP allowed Trump to run in the party and now they need to take responsibility and save the party or they are responsible for it's destruction.

If the party, that has always said, people need to take personal responsibility for their actions and their life can't follow their own principles it isn't worth saving. The voters are the party. Without them there is no one to follow and no leader necessary to mess it all up. Control your leaders or remove them.

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Old 03-17-2016, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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If Trump does not win the nomination then America is not a real democracy. A party shouldn't try and stop the people's most favorite person from winning because that is so undemocratic.
America is not a Democracy, but never the less....


Political parties are private organizations, you have no realistic expectation of Democracy within them. Their party, their rules.


All this is moot though, because like I said, one way or another the GOP is going to ensure that Trump never becomes president, either by taking the nomination away from him, or running another candidate to split the votes, ensuring a Hillary win.... You can whine and gripe about it all you want, but that is the reality, and both options end the same way.... with Trump not becoming the president.
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I don't agree.
If they go down this road, it will be crystal clear to everyone that the entire system is corrupt. That votes don't matter.
And they can forget about getting a vote from any fair minded person like me. They can go F themselves....and then you can welcome in President Hillary. After 8 more years, you won't recognize this country.
And you will be complicit in that, because as you yourself say, "they can forget about getting a vote from any fair minded person like me"... In other words, you'd put your grudge against the Republican party ahead of what is best for your country.


The smart Trump supporter would complain about the Republican party and go on about how it's all unfair, but still wind up voting for their candidate in the end because they are still a better choice than Hillary.
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Trump would go Independent and possibly take Cruz with him.

Millions would vote Trump and deny the GOP the Presidency either by winning or splitting the vote. Trump has a lot of loyal followers.

Hillary would love all of this.

Cut this cake any way you want, it all ends with Trump NOT becoming the President. Trump goes independent? He doesn't win. Trump is the nominee and the GOP runs a 3rd party candidate? Trump doesn't win. Trump will not become the president no matter what, the GOP seems poised to make that the outcome.
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:52 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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I think Trump sees it coming too, that is why he is starting with this "There will be riots" business. The GOP can not allow this loose cannon to represent their party, he is 180 out of phase with everything they stand for.

The next couple of months are going to be very interesting, and I sincerely hope they find a way to squash this bug before he does more damage to our country than he already has.

Don

One can only hope!
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