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Old 03-18-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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If/when he becomes the nominee, I have a feeling hillary's unfavorable numbers will be much higher, especially when stories like this from the "champion" of woman's and children rights start getting front page news.

https://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blog...-politics.html

Hillary Clinton's Handling of 1975 Rape Case Emerges Again - ABC News

" "If and when Hillary decides to run for president her record is going to be scrutinized anew and stories about how she has conducted herself in positions of power will certainly be germane to the campaign," Miller told ABC News."

I think most will agree the lady has some major baggage that hasn't even been exposed to any big level yet.
If you want to put Hillary's comments about a rape case where she was appointed to represent a defendant 40 years ago up against the things Trump has said about women in the last six months, have at it.

Did you read in the article where after the trial Hillary started a rape crisis hotline?

Women are not going to abandon support of Hillary in favor of Trump based on the 40-year-old court appointment or her comments about it later.
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Old 03-18-2016, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Hillary is definately the more 'conservative' candidate compared to Bernie Sanders.
She seems to want to pretty much continue the policies of Obama, but many Dems would be fine with that.
Bernie is definitely the person you want if you want things to be shaken up. Personally I think it's dangerous to go towards a socialist or Democratic socialist country..but there are a lot of people that want that.

It's obvious that Clinton has made more compromises with her political career, which have also allowed her to obtain massive wealth.
It looks like her net worth is $30million on the lower end, and some estimates put the net worth of Bill Clinton and her at around $100million.
Personally I think that's great if they obtained it all legally , which I haven't heard otherwise...but for a lot of the more socialist or Democratic socialist voters, this alone is a huge turn off.
Bernie's wealth on the other hand I have read is a modest $700,000.
Who do you think the Occupy Wall Street protesters and others would back?
Hillary IS the 1%
I don't think we should attack the rich or make it more difficult to operate, but there is a segment of the population that has negative opinions of the very wealthy.
Sure, Hillary didn't trade derivatives on Wall Street...but much of her wealth comes directly from Wall Street.
She's trying to run away from this issue, but it leaves a bad taste in the mouth of a lot of voters.
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Old 03-18-2016, 01:41 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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At first I thought this thread was started as satire, but I guess I was wrong. Anyone who believes more women prefer Donald Trump to one of the Democratic candidates is delusional. Last night I was watching one of the cable news channels and a Trump supporter referred to a TV ad as one of the ways "the Democrats" were attacking Trump. Guess what? It was funded by Republicans.

Here's the ad:

[url]https://www.good.is/articles/trump-anti-woman-ad[/url]

Here's a description of the PAC

[url=http://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/our-principles-pac/]Our Principles PAC[/url]
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Old 03-18-2016, 01:51 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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Just to throw a little balance on the "trump trump trump!" obsession posts.


I always try to use current articles and polls when possible. This is from today:

[URL="http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/03/18/polls-trump-gets-clobbered-by-hillary-among-swing-groups-n2135769"]Polls: Trump Clobbered by Hillary Among Women, Nonwhites, Millennials[/URL]
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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At first I thought this thread was started as satire, but I guess I was wrong. Anyone who believes more women prefer Donald Trump to one of the Democratic candidates is delusional. Last night I was watching one of the cable news channels and a Trump supporter referred to a TV ad as one of the ways "the Democrats" were attacking Trump. Guess what? It was funded by Republicans.

Here's the ad:

https://www.good.is/articles/trump-anti-woman-ad

Here's a description of the PAC

Our Principles PAC
It was funded by a billionaire's wife (the PAC).
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Hillary Clinton Favorable Rating - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

"Pollster Trend
Unfavorable 53.6%
  • Favorable 41.6%
  • Undecided"
Just to throw a little balance on the "trump trump trump!" obsession posts.
Face it dude. Trump's unfavorability are the worst "on record". You cannot get much lower than that.

"...But this narrative tends to obscure the fact that Trump is the most unpopular candidate of either party when the entire U.S. population is taken into account -- and that he has a higher unfavorable rating than any nominated candidate from either of the two major parties going back to the 1992 election when we began to track favorability using the current format.

It's not getting any better.

Trump's Negative Image
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Old 03-18-2016, 06:12 PM
 
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If/when he becomes the nominee, I have a feeling hillary's unfavorable numbers will be much higher, especially when stories like this from the "champion" of woman's and children rights start getting front page news.

https://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blog...-politics.html

Hillary Clinton's Handling of 1975 Rape Case Emerges Again - ABC News

" "If and when Hillary decides to run for president her record is going to be scrutinized anew and stories about how she has conducted herself in positions of power will certainly be germane to the campaign," Miller told ABC News."

I think most will agree the lady has some major baggage that hasn't even been exposed to any big level yet.
IF you think that the so called 'rape laugh' is something that the public hasn't heard - you are sadly mistaken. As someone who spends a great deal of time with attorneys ~ I can attest to the fact that they are indeed human. Take note - the laughter was NOT at the victim and this will NOT change anyone's mind.

Perhaps it was new to you.

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If you want to put Hillary's comments about a rape case where she was appointed to represent a defendant 40 years ago up against the things Trump has said about women in the last six months, have at it.

Did you read in the article where after the trial Hillary started a rape crisis hotline?

Women are not going to abandon support of Hillary in favor of Trump based on the 40-year-old court appointment or her comments about it later.
OP is quite delusional on this one.
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Old 03-18-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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The reason people have an unfavorable view of Hillary is that Hillary is completely unlikable in so many ways.

Most people are aware now that the Clintons -- who suffered the indignity of leaving the White House DEAD BROKE -- have grifted their way to an 8- or 9-figure net worth. They did it by selling influence. Both of them are political prostitutes, though Bill likely prefers the company of prostitutes more than he enjoys being one.

In 2016, the shine is off the turd known as "Team Clinton". Bill's days of being a Big-Mac eating, cigar-smoking(?) rapist are long gone. Hillary has needed the scheming of the DNC to avoid yet another election year embarrassment. And rumor has it that Chelsea forgot to send Webb a Father's Day card.

At 68, soon to be 69 years old, Bride of Bubba isn't going to get any more likable. She's just not.

She may win the nomination, and ultimately the election, but that says more about how low we have sunk as a country than how electable a poorly-aging cuckquean truly is.
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Old 03-18-2016, 09:29 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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The libs will defend this piece of crap even after she bold faced lied and stated not a single life was lossed in Libya.
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Old 03-18-2016, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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I always try to use current articles and polls when possible. This is from today:

Polls: Trump Clobbered by Hillary Among Women, Nonwhites, Millennials
Young people are low turnout voters. And many dislike hillary. And many woman don't like her either, including I'm proud to say, my wife, sister, my mom and other woman I know:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...problem-213621

Middle aged and older voters are the big groups that vote. No matter what people say they will do, in the end, this has proven to be true(yeah, I know, this time will be different). latinos are also low turnout voters overall. Most people in these groups don't care to vote. If it was bernie? I think there would indeed a bigger turn out among the young but how much really? Not working out for him in the primaries dispite hillary's bad numbers with younger people and bernies good numbers with young. Case and point. Woman, sure, but trump does very well among republican woman voters and if they turn out in big numbers, the point perhaps could be a non-issue. You don't know/I don't know, we haven't even got into campaigning yet so don't get too excited about the numbers yet. All we can know is what has occurred so far and it is this:

Donald Trump Boasts About Doing Well Among Women - and He's Right - ABC News


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If you want to put Hillary's comments about a rape case where she was appointed to represent a defendant 40 years ago up against the things Trump has said about women in the last six months, have at it.

Did you read in the article where after the trial Hillary started a rape crisis hotline?

Women are not going to abandon support of Hillary in favor of Trump based on the 40-year-old court appointment or her comments about it later.
My point isn't to compare best of worst behavior as many like to fall back on.

Yes, I feel it's relevant to someone who sells themselves as a champion of child rights. I've read the information/listened to the interview myself and it seems very cold to me how she acted on the matter. Yes, her job to act as a defense attorney, got it. But the laughing part, how she discusses it in my view in a cold/trivial way leaves my conscious ice cold. As for starting a rape crises hotline, it sounds to me like many people who go to church every week and try to sell me that alone makes them a good person and magically their past not so nice actions can be off the record. Please.

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IF you think that the so called 'rape laugh' is something that the public hasn't heard - you are sadly mistaken. As someone who spends a great deal of time with attorneys ~ I can attest to the fact that they are indeed human. Take note - the laughter was NOT at the victim and this will NOT change anyone's mind.

Perhaps it was new to you.
I believe many haven't heard about it. Regardless, I bet they will be reminded of it very soon though who ever runs against her.

What does working with lawyers/telling me their human have anything to do with this? As for not changing anyone's mind, that's not for you to decide/control. We can only express our own view on the matter and to you apparently it's not an issue. For me it's cold acting. Now if a guy did this, 10, 20, 40 years ago, I think it would indeed be a MAJOR issue. I guarantee it! In the end, the issue is indeed a hot button topic for many as the first sentence here alludes too:

Hillary Clinton's Handling of 1975 Rape Case Emerges Again - ABC News

At the very least, especially paying attention to the bold which I and many others feel is the heart of the issue.

"Nevertheless, it might be the way Clinton talked - and laughed - about the trial in the audio tapes, rather than her decision to defend him that people could find off-putting. And Tim Miller, of the Republican opposition group America Rising, feels that this story is fair game. "If and when Hillary decides to run for president her record is going to be scrutinized anew and stories about how she has conducted herself in positions of power will certainly be germane to the campaign," Miller told ABC News."

yeah, "might be" just a little "off-putting". Of course for those who want to believe that a blue car is really red, correct, there's no convincing them. Lots of brainwashed people out there supporting (insert candidate of your choice).

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