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Old 04-01-2016, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If you think Trump is so great, why the hell are you so desperately focused on derailing this thread to talking about Obama instead? Obama isn't up for re-election.

Could it be you have nothing positive to say about Trump other than some general platitudes about how he's going to somehow make things better?
Bigger question.

Uh-oh: Where does all the white rage go when Donald Trump loses? - Salon.com

 
Old 04-01-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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So executive orders are bad when someone you're against gives them, but good when someone you support gives them. Gotcha.

You basically want your own little dictator. But in your mind that's OK because he's a dictator you agree with.
Obama started the mess with executive orders. Reversing bad executive orders is a necessary evil. We can chat again if Trump comes up with some of his own.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 02:44 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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The U6 rate is currently 9.8%, down from 14.2% when Obama took office.


The vast majority of the jobs created under Obama's watch were full-time. There are now more full-time jobs than before the Great Recession hit

Nope.

Nullified by the fact that just as many if not more Americans saw their premiums drop, and millions of Americans who never had healthcare at all suddenly do. Healthcare costs are increasing at their lowest rate in decades, the uninsured rate is near record lows. and millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions can now get get treatment...thanks to Obamacare.

Obama did not double our debt--failed GOP policies are mostly responsible.

You got one, but even this number is declining.

No more than other President's. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker now.





This statement is so false, Circus Clown Trump is going to retweet it. The illegal immigration population has DECLINED since 2007.

Is it Obama's job to create special laws just for African-Americans? I'm sure White Nationalists/Trump supporters would get a thrill out of that.

About 6 trillion times better than we were perceived when the Great Republican Disaster (GWB) left office.



Obama approval rating (Gallup): 53%
GOP congress (Gallup): 13%

Obama's approval now rivals Reagan's at the end of his term in office, while Republicans are about as popular as a tax audit. Take a guess who's going to be more missed.
Raymond - thanks for your lengthy reply.

Let's start with the U6 rate for which you fail to mention went up for months after Obama took office in Jan 2009. Started at 14.2 and did not come down below 14.2 permanently until July 2013.

I asked for the average wage of the full time jobs that Obama "created".

As for health insurance, lots of people are insured now because they were forced to buy insurance or pay the fine. Lots of healthy people do not need insurance other than a catastrophic plan.

As for the national debt, did Obama sign the Federal budget or not ?

And how do you know the illegal immigration population has declined since 2007 ? Have they become green card holders and now citizens ? Link please

I'll be back for the rest ...
 
Old 04-01-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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still winning, so still not scared.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 06:22 PM
 
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Back to where it came from....Klan rallies.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 07:02 PM
 
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So happy when Mr Trump wins the presidency - and he tells obama, "YOU'RE FIRED!"
 
Old 04-02-2016, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Yep, quite a record ...

Try looking at the U6 rate instead of U3 and tell us how many Americans have stopped looking for jobs or are working beneath their qualifications. Tell us about the wage levels for the average middle class American. Break those 10 million jobs down and tell us the average wage level. Were most of them minimum wage jobs as more factory/manufacturing jobs hit the road ?

Tell the average working man that the increase in his health insurance premiums and pharmaceutical costs are just part of the process but 92-year-old Ethel in Ft. Lauderdale now has HMO coverage.

Does financial reform mean doubling the national debt that a future president will inherit ?

Tell us about the record number of people on welfare and SNAP.

Tell us about the arrogant executive orders filed by the wannabe dictator.

Tell us about the record number of illegals streaming into this country under Obama's watch.

Tell us about all Obama has done for inner-city African American youth.

Tell us how we're perceived internationally due to Obama's foreign policies.

And when you're done, I'll tell you how glad most sane Americans will be when he leaves office.
"Try looking at the U6 rate instead of U3 and tell us how many Americans have stopped looking for jobs or are working beneath their qualifications."
Ok, let's look at U6, since you brought it up. One thing people don't realize is that these different measures measure different things, but all move in tandem.



I don't know 92-year-old Ethel in Ft. Lauderdale, but she is eligible for Medicare or Medicaid. To to correct you, most premiums for the same coverage have slowed in the rate of increase under the ACA.

Regarding the "record number of people on welfare and SNAP," that peaked in 2013. Stop living in the past.

:Tell us about the arrogant executive orders filed by the wannabe dictator."
I don't know what you are talking about, and I suspect you don't either.

"Tell us about the record number of illegals streaming into this country under Obama's watch."
Why don't you tell us, because there are more people leaving than returning. (More Mexicans Leave the U.S. Than Come Across the Border)

"Tell us about all Obama has done for inner-city African American youth."
Getting the country out of the Great Recession has done much for them, including the increased number of jobs. Obama also wants to raise the minimum wage, which would decrease poverty, but guess which political party stands in the way? Hint, it isn't Democrats.

"Tell us how we're perceived internationally due to Obama's foreign policies. "
Better yet, read this chart from Pew Research and see for yourself:



"And when you're done, I'll tell you how glad most sane Americans will be when he leaves office."
Since Obama has a 53% approval rating, that means that a majority are sad to see him go.

What I would suggest to you is to stop getting your "facts" from the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show.

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Old 04-02-2016, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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So happy when Mr Trump wins the presidency - and he tells obama, "YOU'RE FIRED!"
Under the hypothetical situation where Trump gets elected in November 2016, Mr. Obama will remain president until January 20, 2017, regardless of whatever Trump says. Middle-school civics should have taught you that the president-elect can't fire a sitting president. But I am asking too much thinking that a Trump supporter has any inkling about how the government actually works.
 
Old 04-02-2016, 06:19 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Under the hypothetical situation where Trump gets elected in November 2016, Mr. Obama will remain president until January 20, 2017, regardless of whatever Trump says. Middle-school civics should have taught you that the president-elect can't fire a sitting president. But I am asking too much thinking that a Trump supporter has any inkling about how the government actually works.
Think he was joking MTA - have your coffee and settle down a bit ...
 
Old 04-02-2016, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Think he was joking MTA - have your coffee and settle down a bit ...
Things Trump and Trump supporters utter sound so bizarre that one never can tell when they are joking or serious.
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