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Old 04-04-2016, 02:08 AM
 
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Why bother voting from now on when they can simply flip people's choices?
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Not sure what you're talking about here.

Pledged delegates are bound by the rules of their state.

Unpledged delegates are just that - unpledged.

It is fair to lobby the pledged delegates to get their votes should they be released.

It is always fair to lobby the unpledged delegates.
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Not sure what you're talking about here.

Pledged delegates are bound by the rules of their state.

Unpledged delegates are just that - unpledged.

It is fair to lobby the pledged delegates to get their votes should they be released.

It is always fair to lobby the unpledged delegates.
Sanders campaign has stated that they could try to flip pledged delegates - Democratic delegated are pledged, not bound.


//www.city-data.com/forum/elect...p-pledged.html


And there were all kinds of shenanigans at the convention in Nevada this weekend, to try to deny Hillary Clinton the pledged delegates she had earned during the caucus.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:05 AM
 
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Sanders campaign has stated that they could try to flip pledged delegates - Democratic delegated are pledged, not bound.


//www.city-data.com/forum/elect...p-pledged.html


And there were all kinds of shenanigans at the convention in Nevada this weekend, to try to deny Hillary Clinton the pledged delegates she had earned during the caucus.

This is just meaningless nonsense and flailing from the sanders crew to justify continuing a campaign that's been essentially mathematically eliminated.


Clinton is far, far ahead in not only delegates, but the popular vote. There is no backroom dealing or obscure delegate procedure that will overturn that in his favor. It would be a disaster for the party and destroy it.


Sanders is in this because it gives him a more visible soapbox to stand on, and he doesn't really care what he has to do to make sure he has the spotlight as long as possible.
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Old 04-04-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Sanders campaign has stated that they could try to flip pledged delegates - Democratic delegated are pledged, not bound.


//www.city-data.com/forum/elect...p-pledged.html


And there were all kinds of shenanigans at the convention in Nevada this weekend, to try to deny Hillary Clinton the pledged delegates she had earned during the caucus.
People posting conspiracies on twitter (from both sides) regarding Nevada doesn't make it so.
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Old 04-17-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Not sure what you're talking about here.

Pledged delegates are bound by the rules of their state.

Unpledged delegates are just that - unpledged.

It is fair to lobby the pledged delegates to get their votes should they be released.

It is always fair to lobby the unpledged delegates.
It appears that American's in general have no clue about the Electoral College. It's represented by the "Delegates" which each State has the number of delegates equal to the number of representative in Congress.
As a result~ It's NOT the # of votes ala~ "POPULAR VOTE" that counts but the number of Delegates obtained by the candidate.

U. S. Electoral College, Official - What is the Electoral College?

Snippet for a taster of information about "Electoral College" So I guess Trump wants to change the part of this "Constitution" as well

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The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens.

The Electoral College process consists of the selection of the electors, the meeting of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by Congress.

The Electoral College consists of 538 electors. A majority of 270 electoral votes is required to elect the President. Your state’s entitled allotment of electors equals the number of members in its Congressional delegation: one for each member in the House of Representatives plus two for your Senators. Read more about the allocation of electoral votes.

Under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution, the District of Columbia is allocated 3 electors and treated like a state for purposes of the Electoral College. For this reason, in the following discussion, the word “state” also refers to the District of Columbia.

Each candidate running for President in your state has his or her own group of electors. The electors are generally chosen by the candidate’s political party, but state laws vary on how the electors are selected and what their responsibilities are. Read more about the qualifications of the Electors and restrictions on who the Electors may vote for.
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Sanders campaign has stated that they could try to flip pledged delegates - Democratic delegated are pledged, not bound.

Huge difference between "Pledged and BOUND"
Delegates can actually be flipped. It's my IIRC that Obama was able to flip delegates in the final months of the primaries/Caucus' processes


//www.city-data.com/forum/elect...p-pledged.html


And there were all kinds of shenanigans at the convention in Nevada this weekend, to try to deny Hillary Clinton the pledged delegates she had earned during the caucus.
BBM ^^^^ and BTW~~ A lot of those delegates pledged "Clinton" way before either of them actually even threw their hat into the run for Presidency. Super Pacs had been setup for over a year..Senators and Congress persons were publicly advocating and supporting her for over a year..while HRC was deciding

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This is just meaningless nonsense and flailing from the sanders crew to justify continuing a campaign that's been essentially mathematically eliminated.


Clinton is far, far ahead in not only delegates, but the popular vote. There is no backroom dealing or obscure delegate procedure that will overturn that in his favor. It would be a disaster for the party and destroy it.


Sanders is in this because it gives him a more visible soapbox to stand on, and he doesn't really care what he has to do to make sure he has the spotlight as long as possible.
Your last paragraph I disagree with. Sander's cares very much about the principles he is "Soapboxing" about. He has not only talked about it..he walked the walk. Now, IF one wishes to bash him for some of his voting records..Just maybe He is a "Missing Link" politician that believes in Compromise..which has been missing for past 7.8 years!! Yikes John Boehner couldn't even utter that dirty word since 2010
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Old 04-17-2016, 03:55 PM
 
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Sanders is finished by the end of April...same with Cruz at this point. The instant Cruz was thrust into the spotlight and the people saw what he's about, his poll numbers tanked
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