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Old 04-04-2016, 10:32 AM
 
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Facts - CRUZ IS LOSING BADLY and has NO CHANCE AT THE NOMINATION. Have another look at the NE polls ...
Oh, I'm not saying I think Cruz or Kasich will have enough delegates, either.

But Trump has yet to capture 50 percent in any single race. That tells you that the majority of Republicans do not want him as their candidate. And if it goes to a brokered convention and he loses on the first ballot, he's done.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:43 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Oh, I'm not saying I think Cruz or Kasich will have enough delegates, either.

But Trump has yet to capture 50 percent in any single race. That tells you that the majority of Republicans do not want him as their candidate. And if it goes to a brokered convention and he loses on the first ballot, he's done.
4/19 New York - and Utah has already been discussed. Small potatoes...
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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For the first ballot, yes the delegates are locked. For any ballots afterwards, no. From the 2nd ballot forward they may vote as they choose. Cruz's camp is courting them for the second vote and beyond, not the first.
That is not stealing. The delegates cease to be Trump's after the first vote. This is why people keep saying if he doesn't go into the convention with 1,237 delegates he will not be the nominee.
In that case I hope Trump's folks are out doing the same to Cruz/Rubio/Kasich/Carson delegates.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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This is not stealing delegates. The delegates are bound to Trump on the first ballot (some states longer), but those delegates are free to vote how they want beyond then. Cruz is trying to appeal to delegates if it goes to the point that they are unbound, Trump has the same right to do the same.
This exactly, Trump supporters just don't realize the reality of the situation like most things.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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In that case I hope Trump's folks are out doing the same to Cruz/Rubio/Kasich/Carson delegates.
They should be and nothing is stopping them. But Cruz and his team excel in this sort of grass-roots organization type stuff and Trump excels at making an ass out of himself in order to get free media coverage. Trump has been doing well as far as free TV time, which has arguably provided him his current lead.

But now it is time to get down to brass tacks. Like Ross Perot used to say, the devil is in the details. At the end of the day, it is about getting 1,237 individual delegates - people - to vote for you at the Republican convention. One of the most important things you can do towards that end is to get people appointed as delegates who are supportive of your candidacy, even if they are required to vote for someone else on the first ballot. Ted Cruz clearly understands that. Donald Trump, maybe not so much.
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Old 04-04-2016, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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This shows the issue with Trumps campaign, he don't get the political issues nor does his team. There is little ground game with Trump other than his speeches which are media circuses that show the world what he is saying rather than staying with the group. Both for better and worse. A better handle could have avoided several Trump gaffes and made him much more electable to the masses.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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They should be and nothing is stopping them. But Cruz and his team excel in this sort of grass-roots organization type stuff
Excels? At grass roots movements? LOL

They have lost every state east of the Mississippi except for tiny Maine.

These results speak for themselves.


No candidate has ever been nominated with such poor performance. No President has been elected who didn't win a substantial portion of the vote during their primaries. You can take that to the bank.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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Opps.

It's all over to Ted Cruz and his attempt to steal Delegates.


"Delegate Hunter" Manafort Brings Savvy to Trump Camp | RealClearPolitics
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Excels? At grass roots movements? LOL

They have lost every state east of the Mississippi except for tiny Maine.

These results speak for themselves.


No candidate has ever been nominated with such poor performance. No President has been elected who didn't win a substantial portion of the vote during their primaries. You can take that to the bank.

It is also possible that Cruz could have his own problems: Cruz Campaign in Meltdown Mode as Heidi Goes MIA, Lyin’ Ted Fails to Sue or Actually Deny Cheating Rumors – Right Side Broadcasting. I was interested how his home life has been lately.


While it is possible that this campaign has cost Trump one campaign manager; it is possible that it has cost Cruz a little more.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:29 PM
 
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Cruz trying to steal the nomination, and you consider that news? He did that from the very beginning in Iowa. How anyone can support a candidate that is known for cheating and stealing, I do not know. What kind of Christian can endorse that behavior? One that lives in a similar manner I suppose.
Stealing? What nonsense. It is the rules and shows that these people want to Dump Trump if they get the chance because his campaign is imploding with his classless, violent rhetoric.
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