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For the sake of argument, let us say Clinton & Cruz are their party's nominees.
Let us further say both Bernie & Trump run as third party candidates and between them carry 4 or 5 states such that neither Clinton or Trump claim a majority of electoral votes. This sends the top 3 electoral vote getters into the US House of Representatives to determine the election.
Would the Republicans support Trump? Would the Democrats support Bernie (many do not support him for President)?
If the top 3 are Clinton, Trump & Bernie, will the split in Democrats clearly give it to Trump, or will a Trump, Cruz & Clinton split the GOP and hand it to Clinton?
"For the sake of argument" ...... how about the very novel approach of letting the Voters decide who their candidate will be in both the Democratic and Republican races?
Does all this "twist & shout" about Convention battles, protests causing riots, 3rd Party candidates REALLY serve any purpose but to disenfranchise all the voters? NOPE
"For the sake of argument" ...... how about the very novel approach of letting the Voters decide who their candidate will be in both the Democratic and Republican races?
Does all this "twist & shout" about Convention battles, protests causing riots, 3rd Party candidates REALLY serve any purpose but to disenfranchise all the voters? NOPE
Despite your angst, it's a very real possibility. This being a forum I just thought someone might want to discuss it.
Silly me, huh? I mean, who knew this forum was just a place to insult people. Go figure.
For the sake of argument, let us say Clinton & Cruz are their party's nominees..
Clinton, yes. Bernie never stood a chance.
Cruz - Nope. The GOP will never allow Cruz to be nominated. If they go as far as taking the nomination away from their front runner, they will never allow Cruz to replace him. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention at all.
For the sake of argument, let us say Clinton & Cruz are their party's nominees.
Let us further say both Bernie & Trump run as third party candidates and between them carry 4 or 5 states such that neither Clinton or Trump claim a majority of electoral votes. This sends the top 3 electoral vote getters into the US House of Representatives to determine the election.
Would the Republicans support Trump? Would the Democrats support Bernie (many do not support him for President)?
If the top 3 are Clinton, Trump & Bernie, will the split in Democrats clearly give it to Trump, or will a Trump, Cruz & Clinton split the GOP and hand it to Clinton?
Good times ahead, good times.
Except you aren't taking in to account one thing.... Bernie actually gives a d***....
Bernie wouldn't run as an independent, because unlike Trump, Bernie believes genuinely in the policies he espouses and cares about the future of this country. Say what you will about his policies ( and I think they're insane ) but you can't say he isn't sincere. He truly wants what he thinks is best for this country even if it means that he's not in the White House. I'm sure he would tell you that from his perspective, Hillary Clinton, with her many faults, would still be far better than any of the Republicans, and wouldn't do anything that might jeopardize her chances of winning the General over a Republican...
In stark contrast, Trump is an egomaniac who only cares about himself, his popularity, and his image, which he puts ahead of everything else. He wants to be seen as a strong person who doesn't lose, doesn't get cheated, and won't take crap from anyone. So I believe that he would run as a third party if he's not the candidate if for no other reason than to get back at the Republican Party and ensure they don't have a chance to win. Why would he do this if he really cares about Conservative principles? It's because he doesn't really care. He's a phony and a fake, who's successfully run a gigantic scam on voters who don't know any better.
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Except you aren't taking in to account one thing.... Bernie actually gives a d***....
Bernie wouldn't run as an independent, because unlike Trump, Bernie believes genuinely in the policies he espouses and cares about the future of this country. Say what you will about his policies ( and I think they're insane ) but you can't say he isn't sincere. He truly wants what he thinks is best for this country even if it means that he's not in the White House. I'm sure he would tell you that from his perspective, Hillary Clinton, with her many faults, would still be far better than any of the Republicans, and wouldn't do anything that might jeopardize her chances of winning the General over a Republican...
In stark contrast, Trump is an egomaniac who only cares about himself, his popularity, and his image, which he puts ahead of everything else. He wants to be seen as a strong person who doesn't lose, doesn't get cheated, and won't take crap from anyone. So I believe that he would run as a third party if he's not the candidate if for no other reason than to get back at the Republican Party and ensure they don't have a chance to win. Why would he do this if he really cares about Conservative principles? It's because he doesn't really care. He's a phony and a fake, who's successfully run a gigantic scam on voters who don't know any better.
Whether Trump ran third party of not - the Republicans don't have a chance to win if he's not the nominee. I don't care what the polls say - there are more Trump supporters than those registered as Republicans. Just as Bernie has support outside the Democrat party. Disgruntled Americans do not belong to only one party!
"For the sake of argument" ...... how about the very novel approach of letting the Voters decide who their candidate will be in both the Democratic and Republican races?
Does all this "twist & shout" about Convention battles, protests causing riots, 3rd Party candidates REALLY serve any purpose but to disenfranchise all the voters? NOPE
if voters want a specific candidate that is not suitable for the general election, the party is well within its rights to weigh appointing a different candidate versus risk losing affiliation from voters who support said unelectable candidates.
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