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Old 04-07-2016, 04:40 PM
 
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And a lot of mules carry in it by crossing the border in places where border patrols are scarce.
Actually, this is a big problem too, just one example though:

US agents nearly caught $194 million in cocaine in narco submarine - Business Insider
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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True, but you keep out illegals who add to the problem. Add up all of the money being spent for illegals in this country and let me know if you're OK with the total. Then have a look at some of the heroin overdose stories in the U.S. and let us know if you're OK with all of the drug coming in through the southern border.

and why do the drugs flow through the border?

they are supplying the demand of the american who wants them.

you dont need walls to ban people.

you cut off the entitlements, the free tuition for illegals that your boy rick perry doles out, etc, put in an e-verify and heavily punish companies who hire illegals.

that eliminates the illegal immigration problem and saves 10 billion on a wall.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:47 PM
 
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you dont need walls to ban people.

you cut off the entitlements, the free tuition for illegals that your boy rick perry doles out, etc, put in an e-verify and heavily punish companies who hire illegals.

that eliminates the illegal immigration problem and saves 10 billion on a wall.
The bolded is all that is needed, and it would cost the U.S. taxpayer nothing. But no, we have to build some asinine wall that will take years, is impractical, probably won't solve the problem it's meant to address, and will cost trillions in construction and ongoing, never-ending maintenance.

And why? Because no politician, including Trump, actually wants to fine or punish any of their business pals for breaking the law. Which proves that Trump is just a lot of hot air when he complains about the illegal immigration problem.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:50 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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and why do the drugs flow through the border?

they are supplying the demand of the american who wants them.

you dont need walls to ban people.

you cut off the entitlements, the free tuition for illegals that your boy rick perry doles out, etc, put in an e-verify and heavily punish companies who hire illegals.

that eliminates the illegal immigration problem and saves 10 billion on a wall.
And the demand will not go away as now many Americans are addicted. And not just to heroin ...

Cut off the entitlements for whom ... the American citizen who gets them and then distributes them to all of his illegal relatives. There is no one in either political party that would let a sick illegal die on the street rather than be treated at the E.R. And illegals are going to public schools all over the country, not just Texas. Fraud is rampant and the only to stop it is to keep them out.

If we spend $150 billion on a ridiculous nuclear agreement with Iran, we can spend $10 billion on a wall to keep those out who don't belong.

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Old 04-07-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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The bolded is all that is needed, and it would cost the U.S. taxpayer nothing. But no, we have to build some asinine wall that will take years, is impractical, probably won't solve the problem it's meant to address, and will cost trillions in construction and ongoing, never-ending maintenance.

And why? Because no politician, including Trump, actually wants to fine or punish any of their business pals for breaking the law. Which proves that Trump is just a lot of hot air when he complains about the illegal immigration problem.
Do you know how many illegals have their own businesses under the table ? There is no reason for Jose, the Mexican-American landscaper to E-verify anyone when he's paying all of his illegal landscape workers under the table. Get real ...

And do you think all of the illegal women & children are working ? How are you going to stop them from coming in ? How are you going to stop any of them from coming in, living with a green card holder, and working under the table ?

And how are you going to stop ISIS from coming over the southern border when they are funded from overseas and are just here to build bombs and plan mass murders ? E-verify ?
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Old 04-07-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Actually, this is a big problem too, just one example though:

US agents nearly caught $194 million in cocaine in narco submarine - Business Insider

this is more a problem-- NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT!!!!!
but keep cutting the budget-- foolish people
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:52 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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you dont need walls to ban people.

you cut off the entitlements, the free tuition for illegals that your boy rick perry doles out, etc, put in an e-verify and heavily punish companies who hire illegals.

that eliminates the illegal immigration problem and saves 10 billion on a wall.
That only solves the illegals that want to come here to live, the drug runners who come and go don't care about the entitlements or e-verify. Nothing will completely solve the problem but cutting entitlements, e-verify and the wall would greatly reduce the problems.
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:54 PM
 
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affluenza white boy killed 4 people drunk driving.

you dont build a wall over something like that when your own citizens kill enough people drunk driving already.

there are better reasons.

Illegal aliens are devastating our economy, American job opportunities and yes committing crimes on our soil. There are terrorists, criminals and drug dealers coming through our southern border also if that's not enough reason to build the wall then I don't know what is. We can't do anything about our own criminals except to make them face justice when caught. We certainly don't need to add criminal foreigners to the mix.
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:59 PM
 
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and why do the drugs flow through the border?

they are supplying the demand of the american who wants them.

you dont need walls to ban people.

you cut off the entitlements, the free tuition for illegals that your boy rick perry doles out, etc, put in an e-verify and heavily punish companies who hire illegals.

that eliminates the illegal immigration problem and saves 10 billion on a wall.

Read my prior post. It's not just jobs that attract illegal aliens. Criminals and terrorists aren't looking for work thus the wall. E-verify is a good start to stop those coming here to take jobs but we would have to end birthright citizenship for their kids and any benefits also. We'd have to remove any possibility of them being able to survive here.
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Old 04-07-2016, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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affluenza white boy killed 4 people drunk driving.

you dont build a wall over something like that when your own citizens kill enough people drunk driving already.

there are better reasons.
I knew somebody would show up with this post sooner or later, but the 3rd post? Ok, here is the difference. We have killers among our ranks but they are citizens and we can't do anything about it. They are here and are legal. The illegal alien shouldn't have been here so even ONE killing is too much and could have been avoided if he was not in the country. Why should we tolerate ANY crime by illegals? You are talking as though their presence here is inevitable so we have to live with it.
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