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Old 02-13-2008, 02:46 PM
 
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How many times during Obama's 8 years in the State Sen and 2 years in US Senate has he EVER worked out a bi-partisan deal???

I can say in the US SEnate that # is ZERO. THis guy has never gotten 1 bill passed or have ever reached out to Republicans to work something out.

Not sure about Illinois Senate. But I can bet the # of time is ZERO too.

So can anyone please explain to me just HOW is a guy who never worked out any deals with his opponents, never voted outside the Democratic party lines, and never worked out a compromise on a bill will change Washington and will "bring America together" and "end partisanship in Washington" as he says??

Please, anyone? Please provide links to any articles detailing Obama's compromises on anything and/or ever reaching out to the other side?? Media Matters and MoveON.org are NOT valid websites as they are politically charged websites funded by foreign Communism financier and Obama-backer, Geroge Soros.
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:50 PM
 
Location: DFW area
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How many times during Obama's 8 years in the State Sen and 2 years in US Senate has he EVER worked out a bi-partisan deal???

I can say in the US SEnate that # is ZERO. THis guy has never gotten 1 bill passed or have ever reached out to Republicans to work something out.

Not sure about Illinois Senate. But I can bet the # of time is ZERO too.

So can anyone please explain to me just HOW is a guy who never worked out any deals with his opponents, never voted outside the Democratic party lines, and never worked out a compromise on a bill will change Washington and will "bring America together" and "end partisanship in Washington" as he says??

Please, anyone? Please provide links to any articles detailing Obama's compromises on anything and/or ever reaching out to the other side?? Media Matters and MoveON.org are NOT valid websites as they are politically charged websites funded by foreign Communism financier and Obama-backer, Geroge Soros.
Good luck with that one, Johnny.
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:51 PM
 
Location: South Side
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Well, you are wrong. Didn't Obama go to Iraq with Lugar and work out foreign deals with him? Obama did get bills passed in the senate and he didn't do it by himself.

Plus, he certainly worked on a bi-partisan basis in the IL Senate. Think! He had bi-partisan support in election to the IL senate (his district is not all black or all Democratic) and he certainly had bi-partisan support to get to the US Senate. Never worked outside of party lines? You know how hidebound and backward the Chicago Democrats are? They fought with Obama's attempts to get some things done and he was able to win them over.

I guess this is just your daily 'Bash Obama' thread.
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Here
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But...But...He's a good speaker.
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:54 PM
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Well, you are wrong. Didn't Obama go to Iraq with Lugar and work out foreign deals with him? Obama did get bills passed in the senate and he didn't do it by himself.

Plus, he certainly worked on a bi-partisan basis in the IL Senate. Think! He had bi-partisan support in election to the IL senate (his district is not all black or all Democratic) and he certainly had bi-partisan support to get to the US Senate. Never worked outside of party lines? You know how hidebound and backward the Chicago Democrats are? They fought with Obama's attempts to get some things done and he was able to win them over.

I guess this is just your daily 'Bash Obama' thread.
I see no links in your post. I believe the OP asked for substantiation of Obama's Bi-Partisan compromses.
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Well, you are wrong. Didn't Obama go to Iraq with Lugar and work out foreign deals with him? Obama did get bills passed in the senate and he didn't do it by himself.

Plus, he certainly worked on a bi-partisan basis in the IL Senate. Think! He had bi-partisan support in election to the IL senate (his district is not all black or all Democratic) and he certainly had bi-partisan support to get to the US Senate. Never worked outside of party lines? You know how hidebound and backward the Chicago Democrats are? They fought with Obama's attempts to get some things done and he was able to win them over.

I guess this is just your daily 'Bash Obama' thread.
Ok, saying you are working across the aisle in Illinois is silly. The republican party in Illinois is about as powerful as the governor in Texas. If any republican wants to get anything heard, they have to kowtow to the democratic machine in that state.
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:59 PM
 
Location: South Side
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Ok, saying you are working across the aisle in Illinois is silly. The republican party in Illinois is about as powerful as the governor in Texas. If any republican wants to get anything heard, they have to kowtow to the democratic machine in that state.
Now that's silly. IL had Republican governors 1976 - 2002. That's a long time for one party to be in power. The Democratic machine in IL died before Chicago's Mayor Washington was elected in 1984. Try to keep up.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Well, you are wrong. Didn't Obama go to Iraq with Lugar and work out foreign deals with him? Obama did get bills passed in the senate and he didn't do it by himself.
Well that worked out great. Cliff Kincaid -- Obama's Global Tax Proposal Up for Senate Vote

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The so-called “Lugar-Obama initiative” was modeled after the Nunn-Lugar program, also known as the Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) program, which was designed to eliminate weapons of mass destruction in the former Soviet Union. But one defense analyst, Rich Kelly, noted evidence that “CTR funds have eased the Russian military’s budgetary woes, freeing resources for such initiatives as the war in Chechnya and defense modernization.” He recommended that Congress “eliminate CTR funding so that it does not finance additional, perhaps more threatening, programs in the former Soviet Union.” However, over $6 billion has already been spent on the program.

Another program modeled on Nunn-Lugar, the Initiatives for Proliferation Prevention (IPP), was recently exposed (http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_110/110-ltr.020608.Bodman.NonProliferation.pdf - broken link) as having funded nuclear projects in Iran through Russia.
I thought this was about good things Obama had done?
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:01 PM
 
Location: South Side
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I see no links in your post. I believe the OP asked for substantiation of Obama's Bi-Partisan compromses.
Sen. Kirk Dillard, one of the leading Republicans in IL, is an Obama supporter. Y'all didn't realize that, huh?
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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How many times during Obama's 8 years in the State Sen and 2 years in US Senate has he EVER worked out a bi-partisan deal???

I can say in the US SEnate that # is ZERO. THis guy has never gotten 1 bill passed or have ever reached out to Republicans to work something out.

Not sure about Illinois Senate. But I can bet the # of time is ZERO too.

So can anyone please explain to me just HOW is a guy who never worked out any deals with his opponents, never voted outside the Democratic party lines, and never worked out a compromise on a bill will change Washington and will "bring America together" and "end partisanship in Washington" as he says??

Please, anyone? Please provide links to any articles detailing Obama's compromises on anything and/or ever reaching out to the other side?? Media Matters and MoveON.org are NOT valid websites as they are politically charged websites funded by foreign Communism financier and Obama-backer, Geroge Soros.
This is an interesting technique. First you plagerize another article and disappear completely from the thread when I point this out. Now you start another thread where you put out a completely false premise and ask everyone else to do the work to correct you afterwards. How about you do a little research beforehand, so you can contribute educated opinions?

I'll give you a head start...

Obama bipartisan legislation - Google Search
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