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Old 05-07-2016, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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She's not Trump.


Ooooohhh! You stole my line !


Don
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Old 05-07-2016, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Houston
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What makes you think most of the country hates Trump? The same media that thinks Hillary is a great candidate? Hmm....
Actually polls show both with a negative rating over 50%. You have to go back to McGovern to find someone so unpopular within his own party as Trump. Thank you, idiots, for ensuring a Hitlery presidency.
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Old 05-07-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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I think the Republicans could've easily won the White House by focusing on opposition to ACA and illegal immigrants. But they had to go full throttle on the crazy.
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Old 05-07-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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The country doesn't have to like her, they just have to know that she is competent, experienced and has the skill set to do the job. Which she does.

Trump has none of those things.

Game, set and match to Hillary.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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Actually polls show both with a negative rating over 50%. You have to go back to McGovern to find someone so unpopular within his own party as Trump. Thank you, idiots, for ensuring a Hitlery presidency.
Are we really going to have to tolerate 4 years of "hitlery" nonsense? Really? And which idiots? The ones pushing for Trump? The GOP whose actions have led to him being elected by their party? The people choosing Hillary as the lesser of two evils?
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:10 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Whats likeable about this lady? How can most of the country hate Trump but not hate this egoistic witch??
They're both detestable. The difference is that one has some remote ability to administer the country; the other does not. One does not even seem to know that the Constitution prohibits debt repudiation, or immigration bans based upon religion. The trip to the polling booth (all 300 yards of it) is going to be excruciating. But I suspect I'll vote for Shrillery.
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Are we really going to have to tolerate 4 years of "hitlery" nonsense? Really? And which idiots? The ones pushing for Trump? The GOP whose actions have led to him being elected by their party? The people choosing Hillary as the lesser of two evils?
Not going to stop labeling Hitlery Hitlery now. You can put me on ignore.

The main idiots are the Trump supporters. The Hitlery supporters are quite happy with big government intrusion in our lives. Misguided, but would not call them idiots. The Republican Party may well look at the super delegate route, the less democratic route, as the Democrats have done. The Democrats learned from McGovern, Trump may have provided the same lesson to the Republicans. The problem with democracy is the average voter ain't real bright.

Given Trump's protectionist stand I, like the Kochs, may be leaning toward Hitlery.
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:24 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Not going to stop labeling Hitlery Hitlery now. You can put me on ignore.

The main idiots are the Trump supporters. The Hitlery supporters are quite happy with big government intrusion in our lives. Misguided, but would not call them idiots. The Republican Party may well look at the super delegate route, the less democratic route, as the Democrats have done. The Democrats learned from McGovern, Trump may have provided the same lesson to the Republicans. The problem with democracy is the average voter ain't real bright.

Given Trump's protectionist stand I, like the Kochs, may be leaning toward Hitlery.
There is a serious misconception about the U.S. and most electoral governments. Almost all of them have a roundabout way of selecting the operating head, whether it be a President or Prime Minister. Mobs just don't pick a leader because they have the requisite numbers.

We have a representative form of government, not a pure democracy. The differences are crucial. In my opinion the political parties are among the “gatekeepers” in our great republic. This country is not a democracy or mobocracy for very good reasons. When our Founders designed the Constitution, France was already circling the drain for the bloodbath that would become the French Revolution. Thus, the Constitution was written to strip the mass of people from the ability to elect a head of state or a prime minister directly. In short the Constitution was designed to provide for a participatory form of government but avoid the evils of mob rule. Trump is the very essence of a demagogue appealing to popular passions. If elected he would either not really seek to accomplish his agenda (whatever that is) or would circumvent the law to do so. Much as Obama is now doing with executive orders.

The Republican Party, in my view, has a responsibility to say “Donald Trump is not my people.”The problem is that the GOP had an embarrassment of riches with many good candidates. Because of the lack of an intelligent, motivated party organization the good ones became like a firing squad organized in a circle, thus letting Trump in. As far as a candidate having to run for the primaries as a conservative and in the general as a moderate the Democrats have basically the same problem. The reason we need a new GOP is a largely brain dead leadership and congressional caucus. The GOP needs brighter, younger people. McConnell and Priebus just don't cut it.

As the post I am quoting pointed out, the Democrats adopted a "super-delegate" system to protect itself from a repeat of McGovern. The GOP needs such a system to match. People who have some stake in an ordered system of liberty need a role.
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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You forgot her shrill and screechy voice. If she wins we're going to have to hear her witch-like cackle for at least 4 more years.
And her coughing fits. One of these days, she'll keel right over.
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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hillary? It's claimed she has a vagina. That's it.
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