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Old 05-10-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Let me preface this saying that I am pro-LGBT rights all the way and would never vote for such a candidate. However, this is what is needed in order to thrust LGBT rights as a wedge issue into the trash heap of the history books.

America needs a third-party evangelical candidate to run who is primarily concerned with opposing LGBT rights. Their platform would consist of a national marriage amendment, a national religious freedom law protecting businesses who do not want to serve LGBT people, and a national law requiring that everyone uses the bathroom of their biological gender. This candidate should openly call LGBT people abominations before God. Add in rhetoric about bringing America back to its Christian roots and saving America from divine destruction.

Why does America need such a candidate? It's exactly how segregation died as a viable political issue. In 1968, Southern Democrats ran George Wallace on a segregationist platform. He carried a few Southern states but what he actually accomplished was much greater and the entire country ended up better off for it. He drew out the worst of the worst of the racists and segregationists and the entire country saw their true colors. Never again was segregation an issue in national politics.

I think its time for another such candidate to run to finally put an end to anti-LGBT hysteria within the Republican party. This candidate would probably win Oklahoma, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama but probably no other states. Hillary would win in a landslide. However, the GOP would get the point that it's time to move on from LGBT issues and start focusing on issues that will actually move the country forward.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think you're about to see this thing happen right now.

No need for that 3rd party.

My GOP has morphed into an unrecognizable group of nut bag tools and are hell bent on driving the party straight off a cliff.

Their demise will move the country several steps forward.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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I think you're about to see this thing happen right now.

No need for that 3rd party.

My GOP has morphed into an unrecognizable group of nut bag tools and are hell bent on driving the party straight off a cliff.

Their demise will move the country several steps forward.
I agree, Historic numbers voted in the Republican Primaries to say that it's NOT 1970 anymore, and our Nation has Yuge Prob,emus outside of a private bedroom. The Grand ole Pouters are totally Tone Deaf to what their Constituents think is important.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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I agree, Historic numbers voted in the Republican Primaries to say that it's NOT 1970 anymore, and our Nation has Yuge Prob,emus outside of a private bedroom. The Grand ole Pouters are totally Tone Deaf to what their Constituents think is important.
what do they want exactly? To bring 1985 and mullets back?
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Old 05-10-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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There is one it's the Constitution Party
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Old 05-10-2016, 01:42 PM
 
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there are more pressing issues than the gay thing. the gay thing is just the latest devisive issue to keep the peasants busy.
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Old 05-10-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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there are more pressing issues than the gay thing. the gay thing is just the latest devisive issue to keep the peasants busy.
Abortion, LGBT, Islam, etc...
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Old 05-10-2016, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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The GOP had that candidate, Cruz. We all see how much traction that actually got against the real issues, the ones that are turning our country into a 3rd world dump and making us the doormat to the world.

I know the Democrats keep dredging up social issues, as they always do, but most people are smart enough to know that unless some people get their heads out of their butts, we won't have a country to have social issues in.

No, people are quickly getting it that the politicians count on dividing us to conquer us.
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Old 05-10-2016, 02:03 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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The GOP had that candidate, Cruz. We all see how much traction that actually got against the real issues, the ones that are turning our country into a 3rd world dump and making us the doormat to the world.
If Cruz runs third party, he will be that anti-LGBT George Wallace that is needed. After he wins four states and Hillary wins in a landslide, we will see how big of a deal LGBT issues are in 2020. My guess is at that point any serious candidate won't place much focus on them because they will know that it is a losing issue. They will finally accept that the Supreme Court ruled and gay marriage is the law of the land.
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Old 05-10-2016, 05:00 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Here's my opinion:

While many people in the conservative and Republican communities are opposed to marriage equality specifically and gay rights in general, it is not their primary focus. They tend to be more passionate about other issues like abortion and Second Amendment gun ownership rights. There are actually very few organizations whose sole purpose is fighting gay rights ... the National Organization for Marriage is one.

Conservatives are not unanimously on board in opposing gay rights; the libertarian identified voters tend to have a more "live and let live" attitude.

Nearly one year ago the Supreme Court made it's Obergefell decision. Around the same time Sen. Ted Cruz introduced a bill to amend the US Constitution to outlaw all same sex marriage. In the year since, has there been an impressive groundswell of support for the Cruz amendment? Is the GOP making overturning marriage equality the centerpiece of their domestic policy?
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