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Originally Posted by stevek64
Yes, they have. But the key word is "independent", not run another republican in drag against a republican, RINO or not, sponsored by the same party, either up front or more than likely under the surface. This is bat you know what crazy/self defeating if the goal is to defeat hillary.
I have to believe Romney's goal is to defeat Trump, I think there are many traditional Republicans who'd rather see Hillary in the White House for 4 years than see the very possible death of their party.
It's just like a neocon (Kristol's father brought Trotskyism to America) to consort with a candidate like (fellow neocon) Romney, who attended a Planned Parenthood fundie with Nicki Nichols Gamble.
There's nothing conservative about neocons. That's why it's "neo-."
Yes, they have. But the key word is "independent", not run another republican in drag against a republican, RINO or not, sponsored by the same party, either up front or more than likely under the surface. This is bat you know what crazy/self defeating if the goal is to defeat hillary.
This is not really abput the Presidency anymore. It is about trying to save Congress and the impacts a blowout at the top of the ticket will have on downballot races. Having an Independent probably does little to counteract the down ballot races, having another Republican might not be enough either, but the thinking is likely trying what they can to save Congress with a blowout loss at the top of the ticket.
Will Romney wear his magic underwear during the election? If so, he is bound to "win".
He's not going to win, and if it happens they all know that. They are trying to make sure people like me, who really doesn't want to vote for either Trump or Hillary, don't decide to just sit out the election altogether. They still need people like me to vote for my representative so they want to make sure I have an option I feel comfortable voting for. If Romney or someone like him runs, I will vote for him .... and my incumbent Republican representative.
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This is not really abput the Presidency anymore. It is about trying to save Congress and the impacts a blowout at the top of the ticket will have on downballot races. Having an Independent probably does little to counteract the down ballot races, having another Republican might not be enough either, but the thinking is likely trying what they can to save Congress with a blowout loss at the top of the ticket.
Good point. But I agree with you, I think it's really all for nothing. Voters have woken up big time this year and I think many in congress up for reelection this year won't have a job after Jan 2017/will be elected out in big numbers. The old playbook rules/the money have failed miserably this year and I bet that will continue.
Mitt Romney should name it the loser party. All it will be is him, 200 people in d.c, and the Bushes. Oh, and a couple of babies on here - we know who they are.
No conventional wisdom will stop Trump. He will be president no matter who runs. Have you heard Hillary Clinton speak lately? She sounds even more ridiculous than Trump.
Hillary Clinton is going on tv in interviews telling people Trump wants to deport all Mexican immigrants. She said he wants to jail women who get abortions. She said he wants to raise taxes across the board. And the whole woman card thing is totally starting to backfire on her.
If 60 percent of their electorate doesn't support Trump, why shouldn't they attempt to put up a candidate that perhaps the majority could support?
Because they are only doing it to keep themselves in their greedy ways. Both the GOP and the DNC were NEVER about serving American interests..no. To them its all about how they can rake in millions in taxpayer money so they can live like royalty. And then here comes Donald Trump, who wants to end massive trade corruption, millions of illegal alien cheap labor schemes, and bringing jobs and economic security to Americans. Well, the establishment dont like that, their gravy train is screeching to a halt. But of course these corrupt millionare politicians instead say they are against Trump because he doesnt hold "conservative values" when we all know its because of their greed and corruption at the expense of America is why the hate TRump.
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I agree with the poster who said that the conservative members of the GOP are deathly afraid that Trump is going to win and that's the only reason they'd talk 3rd party. The GOP would not be upset at all if Hillary won because she's establishment - so everything would be status quo. Trump entering the picture is a different story. They aren't afraid of his arrogance or foolishness - they're afraid of what policies he might want to change and apply.
Washington is and always has been a you scratch my back - I'll scratch yours and Trump knows that because he's been the scratcher. If politicians actually have to put what's best for the American people instead of what's best for my pocket and how to get elected again - first - they won't know what to do.
He's not going to win, and if it happens they all know that. They are trying to make sure people like me, who really doesn't want to vote for either Trump or Hillary, don't decide to just sit out the election altogether. They still need people like me to vote for my representative so they want to make sure I have an option I feel comfortable voting for. If Romney or someone like him runs, I will vote for him .... and my incumbent Republican representative.
So you'll vote for a socialist who put health insurance mandates together for Mass., and attended a PP fundraiser? That's a conservative?
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Originally Posted by xray731
I agree with the poster who said that the conservative members of the GOP are deathly afraid that Trump is going to win and that's the only reason they'd talk 3rd party.
There's nothing conservative about Trump's detractors. The family planning population-control promoting Bushes ("Read my lips, no taxes," who derided Reagan's policies as voodoo economics (and if you agree with their assessment, it only proves the point) and open-borders Paul Ryan, are not conservatives.
A neocon infection of the Party was allowed to fester since the months before Reagan's election.
The leading choice for a name for Kristol's party, in his own words, is "New Federalist." As in, Kristol hates the 10th Amendment.
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