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Originally Posted by Ringo1
I agree with the bolded. I have never 'fallen for' a politician. I consider myself a pragmatic and I pick those who seem to be like-minded with some plans.
No dying devotion, no tattoos, etc. I have volunteered on some campaigns in my spare time but my life does not hinge on who is President.
The supreme court is a biggie to me though.
I unstand you position on the Supreme Court. That fine. Again you have a positive reason to vote for Hillary. Go for it.
But here's where you guys are mistaken. It not about the devotion to Bernie. It to the ideas of the far left. Why do you think you're starting to see more talk about the Green Party? It because they hold The positions that leftist like. We are not trapped in the dogma of loyalty to party if it is mostly likely not going to serve our agenda.
But doesn't this just get to the point that people are not voting for someone, their voting against someone. Is this really a satisfactory situation? Me says no.
Voting against someone who you truly feel is dangerous to the country and/or the world is an absolutely valid reason. And this is the situation we face today. I suspect many Republicans will be doing this as well. I hope more known Republicans/Conservatives go public with their intentions. I applaud them for putting country before party.
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Originally Posted by JAMS14
Voting against someone who you truly feel is dangerous to the country and/or the world is an absolutely valid reason. And this is the situation we face today. I suspect many Republicans will be doing this as well. I hope more known Republicans/Conservatives go public with their intentions. I applaud them for putting country before party.
1. Republican are not voting for trump because of various reason. But The overall arching theme is he does share their values.
2. Voting out of fear is the worst reason to vote. It Can open up opportunities for more malevolent thing to happen.
3. Do you actually believe America will collapse in 4 years if trump actually wins. Really?
NBC had some commentary this morning that I agree with. This election is not really about Clinton versus Trump. The Obama endorsement, the Clinton controversies, Warren and twitter are all the sideshows. It is almost entirely a referendum on Trump.
1. Republican are not voting for trump because of various reason. But The overall arching theme is he does share their values.
2. Voting out of fear is the worst reason to vote. It Can open up opportunities for more malevolent thing to happen.
3. Do you actually believe America will collapse in 4 years if trump actually wins. Really?
Tell me what is the path to our destruction?
I think Trump can do an untold amount of damage in four years. He is a bigoted, supremely ignorant lout who knows absolutely nothing about geopolitics or how to govern. Electing Trump would be like electing Archie Bunker. Do you think Archie Bunker could have damaged the country if he were president? I do.
Wanting to prevent that damage from taking place is a valid reason to vote against him.
I think Trump can do an untold amount of damage in four years. He is a bigoted, supremely ignorant lout who knows absolutely nothing about geopolitics or how to govern. Electing Trump would be like electing Archie Bunker. Do you think Archie Bunker could have damaged the country if he were president? I do.
Wanting to prevent that damage from taking place is a valid reason to vote against him.
And us that would never vote for Hillary or Bernie say the same things. Wanting to prevent further irreversible damage to this country.
1. Republican are not voting for trump because of various reason. But The overall arching theme is he does share their values.
2. Voting out of fear is the worst reason to vote. It Can open up opportunities for more malevolent thing to happen.
3. Do you actually believe America will collapse in 4 years if trump actually wins. Really?
Tell me what is the path to our destruction?
I think if he really started going dictator or something, I would hope both parties will impeach his ar$e so fast his head will spin! Maybe he needs to be followed around with Secret Service guys who know how to apply a straight jacket.
Which of course makes his choice of VP interesting. And I've said it before, if he chooses Sarah Palin, then I'll know for sure he punked everyone for fun and/or he's a Clinton plant. I seriously wonder sometimes because he actually makes Hillary looks palatable. No offense to Hillary fans!
I think if he really started going dictator or something, I would hope both parties will impeach his ar$e so fast his head will spin! Maybe he needs to be followed around with Secret Service guys who know how to apply a straight jacket.
Which of course makes his choice of VP interesting. And I've said it before, if he chooses Sarah Palin, then I'll know for sure he punked everyone for fun and/or he's a Clinton plant. I seriously wonder sometimes because he actually makes Hillary looks palatable. No offense to Hillary fans!
Oh I get it, and I don't take offense.
But I'd like you to ponder this for a while - at some point, Trump had to choose which party to run in. He could certainly have plausibly tried for the D nomination.
I suspect he commissioned some private polling to see which party's voters would respond better to him.
He chose the Rs. And the Rs chose him.
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