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Old 06-15-2016, 02:34 PM
 
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Trump should show good faith by stopping every bit of business he does in every country with tons of human rights violations in their histories. Didn't seem to keep him from manufacturing in China though, did it? Once again Donny says 'Good for ME, NOT for thee'.
What does this have to do with Hillary taking money from Dictators who brutalize and oppress people?

There is no moral equivalence as you attempt to make.
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Old 06-15-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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Is Trump going to give back the millions he's made from his Trump Tower in Turkey? They are a Muslim country that supports terrorism...

Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries - Dec. 8, 2015
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Is Trump going to give back the millions he's made from his Trump Tower in Turkey? They are a Muslim country that supports terrorism...

Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries - Dec. 8, 2015

Pretty hypocritical for Trump to bring up Mideastern money. He's used it to fund his self-funded campaign--he has Mideastern partners. I can't figure out why he would bring up a topic that he is vulnerable on himself.
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:04 PM
 
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Pretty hypocritical for Trump to bring up Mideastern money. He's used it to fund his self-funded campaign--he has Mideastern partners. I can't figure out why he would bring up a topic that he is vulnerable on himself.
Indeed...

Trump Only Loves Rich Muslims Who Give Him Money - The Daily Beast
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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making business with Turkey is different from taking BRIBES
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:29 PM
 
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Is Trump going to give back the millions he's made from his Trump Tower in Turkey? They are a Muslim country that supports terrorism...

Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries - Dec. 8, 2015
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Pretty hypocritical for Trump to bring up Mideastern money. He's used it to fund his self-funded campaign--he has Mideastern partners. I can't figure out why he would bring up a topic that he is vulnerable on himself.


Fascinating that you two would accuse a member of NATO to be a government supporter of Terrorism. i.e. Nonsense. Likewise it has nothing to do with this topic.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The country with the worst human rights record on Earth and the biggest instigator/perpetrator of Islamic terrorism want to keep American weapons flowing into their country.

"Jerry Webman, chief economist at OppenheimerFunds, said the markets are basically pricing in victories by Trump and Clinton, but Tuesday's races may help in focusing the markets on issues.

Clinton is more hawkish than Obama. That would be positive for aerospace and defense."

Hillary Clinton Oversaw US Arms Deals to Clinton Foundation Donors | Mother Jones

Hillary Clinton Facilitated Weapons Deals for Clinton Foundation Donors

Hillary Clinton Approved Arms Deal To Saudi Arabia After $10 Million Donation to Clinton Foundation – Godfather Politics
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Old 06-16-2016, 02:41 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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If your contention is that the Saudis are buying influence, where is the evidence that they got anything from their donations? Every report that I read from news organizations said that no favors were given.

As long as those Neanderthal BARBARIANS violate human rights, yet are still allowed to conduct business in/with the U.S. 'THAT' is proof of their buying influence! The 9/11 terrorist nation should be our #1 enemy nation and on our list of terrorist nations!


Or........ do you not even have a problem with the fact that 14 of the 19 participants in 9/11 were Saudi Nationals!



The Saudi Role in Sept. 11 and the Hidden 9/11 Report Pages
Both the administrations of George W. Bush and Barack Obama have refused to declassify the pages on grounds of national security. But critics, including members of Congress who have read the pages in the tightly guarded, underground room in the Capitol where they are held, say national security has nothing to do with it. U.S. officials, they charge, are trying to hide the double game that Saudi Arabia has long played with Washington, as both a close ally and petri dish for the world’s most toxic brand of Islamic extremism.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia...tan-bob-297170

Islamic State: ‘US failure to look into Saudi role in 9/11 has helped Isis’
The rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) has been aided by the continuing failure of the US Government to investigate the role of Saudi Arabia in the 9/11 attacks and its support of jihadi movements such as al-Qaeda in the years since, says former Senator Bob Graham, the co-chairman of the official inquiry into 9/11.
Senator Graham, who chaired the Senate Intelligence Committee, said that successive administrations in Washington had turned a blind eye to Saudi support for Sunni extremists. He added: “I believe that the failure to shine a full light on Saudi actions and particularly its involvement in 9/11 has contributed to the Saudi ability to continue to engage in actions that are damaging to the US – and in particular their support for Isis.”
Islamic State:
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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The March of Dimes doesn't ask why a donor gives them money and I don't care why the Saudis give money to the Clinton Foundation. Getting money from the princes to where it will do good is enough for me. There is also no indication that the Saudis sought or received favors in return. Remember, the Foundation money is not Clinton's personal funds.
I would think anyone would have to admit that if one entity gives 25 million dollars to another persons charity/foundation, the one that bears their name, and the one they personally started and are emotionally vested in, and people who have political power and connections.........and you think there is no expectation of "good things" coming back to the donor for this investment....you're pretty naïve.

It may be totally benign, but it sure doesn't pass the smell test without further investigation and observation, for quite some time into the future to see if there is a quid pro quo a few years from now.

There are lots of good foundations and worthy charities the Saudi's could support to the tune of 25 million, what are the odds that this is the one they picked for such a generous donation ?
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:39 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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I would think anyone would have to admit that if one entity gives 25 million dollars to another persons charity/foundation, the one that bears their name, and the one they personally started and are emotionally vested in, and people who have political power and connections.........and you think there is no expectation of "good things" coming back to the donor for this investment....you're pretty naïve.

It may be totally benign, but it sure doesn't pass the smell test without further investigation and observation, for quite some time into the future to see if there is a quid pro quo a few years from now.

There are lots of good foundations and worthy charities the Saudi's could support to the tune of 25 million, what are the odds that this is the one they picked for such a generous donation ?

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