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I'm not against watch lists, per say, but I don't support lists as a usurp against due process. I said I'd wait until Trump's VP announcement, but it looks like I increasingly cannot support Trump. All I really want for Christmas is to repeal the health-care mandate anyway, and I can still get that through Gary Johnson and preserve some sense of integrity by note voting for either of the two clowns at the top of the two tickets.
No, you can't, because Gary Johnson has no real chance of being elected.
well, I (one person, me myself and I) disagree with you.
I always wanted to be a FBI Profiler.
criminal profiling is based on science, behavior PATTERN. It definitely works if used properly. Is it perfect? NO. Maybe I am biased, but I hope people look up the term " behavioral profiling", I suspect FBI uses many different techniques, to determine if a person should belong to the "watch list".
As I said earlier, U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy regularly had trouble flying because he was on one of these lists. This shows just how haphazardlessly the government administers the list, and here you are conjuring up images of a bunch of FBI profilers in some room in Quantico studying people's behavior to determine whether they should be on the list. That's just not the case, or so it wouldn't appear.
I am not opposed to blocking people on the list from purchasing guns, but there MUST be due process afforded. Otherwise, you are giving the government an unrestrained power with ZERO checks or balances whatsoever.
As I said earlier, U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy regularly had trouble flying because he was on one of these lists. This shows just how haphazardlessly the government administers the list, and here you are conjuring up images of a bunch of FBI profilers in some room in Quantico studying people's behavior to determine whether they should be on the list. That's just not the case, or so it wouldn't appear.
I am not opposed to blocking people on the list from purchasing guns, but there MUST be due process afforded. Otherwise, you are giving the government an unrestrained power with ZERO checks or balances whatsoever.
well, if you have to use ONE example to make a point, maybe there is really no point to discuss.
There should be a balance somewhere, common sense gun law without punishing responsible gun owners.
Nothing is all black and white, unless you want to live in a fantasy world.
Bold is the reason why this country deserves crooked politicians.
Hey, the way I see it, If trump can convince NRA, let him do it.
Even if Trump were able to persuade the NRA to endorse not selling guns to those on the watch list, it doesn't mean anyone in Congress would change their viewpoint or vote. The NRA is simply a lobby group.
So Donnie claims he'll be big-boy tough with ISIS and the Saudi's but he has to ask the NRA's permission about a domestic legislation issue?
He is negotiating to get something done. The NRA greatly influences votes on getting legislation passed. It must be eating you alive that Mr Trump may actually be involved in getting something finally passed when nobody else could. Try and spin in negatively it does not change anything. Say anything you want about the man, he is a master negotiator.
Even if Trump were able to persuade the NRA to endorse not selling guns to those on the watch list, it doesn't mean anyone in Congress would change their viewpoint or vote. The NRA is simply a lobby group.
It's a start. Further than anyone else has got. I believe they will. Lobbyist, unfortunately, have a lot of influence over our elected leaders.
He is negotiating to get something done. The NRA greatly influences votes on getting legislation passed. It must be eating you alive that Mr Trump may actually be involved in getting something finally passed when nobody else could. Try and spin in negatively it does not change anything. Say anything you want about the man, he is a master negotiator.
From everything I've read Trump's negotiating skills consist of "hardball tactics, forceful arguments, ultimatums, walkouts, threats, public blustering, and table pounding."
That style may work in the cut-throat business of real estate development which is a zero-sum game, but that style is not going to work in international relations, which require a far more diplomatic considered approach. You can't go around insulting or humiliating other countries.
It's a start. Further than anyone else has got. I believe they will. Lobbyist, unfortunately, have a lot of influence over our elected leaders.
Then Trump will lose the support of hardline gun-owners like so many of the posters on here.
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