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If you read enough of these pro gun/anti gun threads pretty soon you come to the conclusion that Right wing gun owners seem to be the most adamant about any possible gun law revisions.
Left wing guns owners (yes many liberals also own, shoot, carry concealed weapons) seem to be the ones who are willing to accept reasonable gun laws to try and keep guns out of the hands of criminals, either foreign or domestic.
Call me stupid if you like but I can't imagine anybody thinking it's a good idea to let the bad guys buy guns legally.
Laws against illegal sales (straw purchase) and other illegal sales and posession should be enforced to the fullest extent of the law.
Has nothing to do about who you want for president, common sense makes the most sense..
Why does the US need the approval of lobbyists to create a law? Thought this was the 'change' all those Trump supporters want. So he goes to get permission of the gun lobby for Congress to act? How disgusting.
No kidding! Why aren't Trump supporters screaming about this?
Trump is meeting with a powerful lobby group to beg them to allow Congress to make a common-sense change.
If that's not politics as usual I don't know what is.
The one thing about Donald Trump, like him or not, he will not make decisions based on Republican or Democrat. Like him or not, that is refreshing. We all should follow suit.
True. But no matter what Trump ever says or does...he can't win a general election. He could go to the left of Clinton and still only get 10% of Dems vote.
Most people don't even listen to Trump. Just an automatic NO
The one thing about Donald Trump, like him or not, he will not make decisions based on Republican or Democrat. Like him or not, that is refreshing. We all should follow suit.
Since Trump's positions seem to change with the wind -- sometimes in the same speech, nobody can predict what is decisions will be.
Since Trump's positions seem to change with the wind -- sometimes in the same speech, nobody can predict what is decisions will be.
Honestly, I find nothing wrong with changing positions. I think Trump got stuck because he basically had to move way far right in order to win the republican nomination. He is not far right. He is very moderate. Maybe everyone should stop sticking to their guns so to speak on every topic. Times change, circumstances change and positions need to change accordingly.
Honestly, I find nothing wrong with changing positions. I think Trump got stuck because he basically had to move way far right in order to win the republican nomination. He is not far right. He is very moderate. Maybe everyone should stop sticking to their guns so to speak on every topic. Times change, circumstances change and positions need to change accordingly.
I don't see it that way at all. His right leaning view deal with immigration and he started his campaign based on that. Then he decided Muslims shouldn't be allowed here until for the time being? That certainly is a far right view. In fact both those are not just far right but extreme. So tell where did he go from moderate to the right, at what time in his campaign. There is nothing wrong with changing positions if it is done for the right reason. We all grow, hopefully mature and see things differently than we did at one time. I don't see this the case with him.
I don't see it that way at all. His right leaning view deal with immigration and he started his campaign based on that. Then he decided Muslims shouldn't be allowed here until for the time being? That certainly is a far right view. In fact both those are not just far right but extreme. So tell where did he go from moderate to the right, at what time in his campaign. There is nothing wrong with changing positions if it is done for the right reason. We all grow, hopefully mature and see things differently than we did at one time. I don't see this the case with him.
Well his temporary ban on muslims changed from all muslims to now muslims from war torn countries and which practice sharia law. so getting less extreme!
Well his temporary ban on muslims changed from all muslims to now muslims from war torn countries and which practice sharia law. so getting less extreme!
Doesn't matter if he downgrades his "suggestions" regarding Muslims, the damage has already been done. He has diarrhea of the mouth and that will never change.
Doesn't matter if he downgrades his "suggestions" regarding Muslims, the damage has already been done. He has diarrhea of the mouth and that will never change.
My only other choice royally screwed up when she was Secretary of State and is even being investigated by the FBI for putting our national security at risk and taking bribes during her tenure. Sorry, but I will take diarrhea of the mouth.
Because what you appear to be too naive about is that once you start giving up other people's rights, soon some of the rights that YOU would like to hold onto are also in jeopardy.
Interestingly that # that you posted 3/10 of a percent is the same as the transgender population, yet we are bending over backwards to make accommodations for fear of denying them "rights", which actually do not exist. But an ACTUAL right we are fine trampling on in the name of safety??
Seems kind of hypocritical and very backwards.
This debate is pointless.
With Ryan talking about backing the constitution and how the Dems proposals is all about rights, that and your feelings are backwards.
When that constitution was written the population was much smaller. There wasn't terrorism (if there was nothing even close to what it is today). There was no internet to allow the likes of ISIS to inspire lone wolves.
The GOP's hanging onto old laws as the backbone for their refusal to budge IMO is pathetic based upon the world we live in. Rights across time can't stay level as times and society change. Guns are one of the most glaring signs of this change.
And transgenders is another issue for discussion elsewhere, as are many issues that affect people.
I have not heard one credible reason why not to take further steps for gun control. People on a short list, a list of potential danger, is a start. If you want to support and back those people on such a list be my guest. I won't, and will not concern myself with a broader picture of rights when all they want to do is ssuspend gun purchases for those on that list, which I bet many of them already have guns, maybe purchased before they were placed on the list.
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