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Originally Posted by joeymags
Would Hillary sign a bill that prohibited people being investigated by the FBI from buying guns and running for president? Serious question. Or is her candidacy more important to her than a way she thinks will save lives?
The same FBI under fire for apparently dropping the ball on the Orlando shooter?
Forget every other issue or words spoken for a split second.
What he said is not only what people want to hear, but it's a logical step to take regardless of what has happened in the past with government and gun control.
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Originally Posted by metalmancpa
Forget every other issue or words spoken for a split second.
What he said is not only what people want to hear, but it's a logical step to take regardless of what has happened in the past with government and gun control.
Why is it a "logical step" to talk about taking Constitutional rights away from Americans convicted of nothing?
the one thing about donald trump, like him or not, he will not make decisions based on republican or democrat. Like him or not, that is refreshing. We all should follow suit.
not!!!!!!!
BTW: I do think meeting with them is a good idea, but if it happens I don't see a thing coming from it, nor do I think he cares so much about banning anything: he is pandering to the "other side.
Why is it a "logical step" to talk about taking Constitutional rights away from Americans convicted of nothing?
Because these words: "not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns", has nothing to do with law abiding citizens and their right to bear arms. Too many pro gun people use the "rights" excuse in the wrong manner. I for one would think it a big step if legislation was passed adhering to the quote above.
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Because these words: "not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns", has nothing to do with law abiding citizens and their right to bear arms. Too many pro gun people use the "rights" excuse in the wrong manner. I for one would think it a big step if legislation was passed adhering to the quote above.
What part of "watch list" is it that makes you believe everyone on it is not a law abiding citizen?
Or would you just like to see a wholesale suspension of due-process?
not!!!!!!!
BTW: I do think meeting with them is a good idea, but if it happens I don't see a thing coming from it, nor do I think he cares so much about banning anything: he is pandering to the "other side.
Maybe, maybe not. Trump has always been Republican Light.. I am Republican and disagree with my fellow Republicans on this issue. We all need to compromise in order to get things done. I feel if someone is on the no fly list or being investigated by the FBI for terrorist activities they should be banned from buying guns legally. I am sure they will still get whatever is their weapon of choice, but not legally.
If someone is a law abiding citizen and not planning on doing anything to get themselves on the no fly list or investigated by the FBI, than they are golden and they get their gun.
What part of "watch list" is it that makes you believe everyone on it is not a law abiding citizen?
Or would you just like to see a wholesale suspension of due-process?
If someone is put on a "watch list" for a technical error they will be removed and erased. If they are put because of something they did to raise suspicion, well then no gun will be sold to them legally. Is that really so bad?
What part of "watch list" is it that makes you believe everyone on it is not a law abiding citizen?
Or would you just like to see a wholesale suspension of due-process?
If someone made it to a watch list, that IMO provides enough doubt to take them out of the law abiding citizen category. Something got them there, and until they are taken off, can't purchase.
No different that an IRS lien. Don't pay or file taxes, ultimately you could have a lien placed on you. Unless you enter into a payment agreement, file and/or pay your taxes, that burden will be with you affecting your ability to conduct business.
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