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Old 06-15-2016, 11:31 PM
 
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Personally I don't think the DNC should be recycling and actively promoting candidates (with the help of the corporate media) that were already rejected.
Then you'll be happy to learn that the DNC has zero say in which candidates run in the primary and it doesn't spend one red cent on promoting or backing a particular candidate.

Your state sets the criteria for who can appear on the ballot as a candidate. In my state, there were about a dozen Dem presidential candidates.
The FEC sets the criteria for who is eligible to appear in debates (same rules apply to both Dem and GOP candidates).

The DNC can not and does not promote any individual candidate. Same goes for the RNC.
It's not until the parties select nominees at their conventions that they can back them.
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Old 06-15-2016, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Then you'll be happy to learn that the DNC has zero say in which candidates run in the primary and it doesn't spend one red cent on promoting or backing a particular candidate.

Your state sets the criteria for who can appear on the ballot as a candidate. In my state, there were about a dozen Dem presidential candidates.
The FEC sets the criteria for who is eligible to appear in debates (same rules apply to both Dem and GOP candidates).

The DNC can not and does not promote any individual candidate. Same goes for the RNC.
It's not until the parties select nominees at their conventions that they can back them.
I'd say Debbie Wassermans' bias has been obvious-it is only natural though and it's hard to fault her; Sanders is seen as an "outsider" to the Democratic Party and was/is supporting someone running against her in Florida. In 2008 she was national co-chair of Hillary's campaign against Barack Obama.

She is not doing her job effectively of uniting the party by remaining neutral when articles like these are floating around. The fact that she has become so infamous is a testament in itself (even becoming the butt of the joke on SNL about the primary being "rigged").
I doubt many even know the RNC chair-person.
She was just not the right person for the job, and many think her actions could even help to elect the Republican candidate in November.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz must go, and the case Bernie Sanders must make tonight - Salon.com
Will Hillary Clinton sacrifice Wasserman Schultz to appease Bernie Sanders? - Sun Sentinel
Fire Debbie Wasserman Schultz
How Debbie Wasserman Schultz Went From Rising Star to Lightning Rod for Liberals - News

"Other complaints touched on the DNC’s choice of scheduling debates on weekends and early in the race which they claim gave Sanders a disadvantage, and setting up a joint fundraising operation with Clinton, a common practice in presidential races but one that has irked Sanders’ campaign. "

"DNC limited debates to six, compared to 26 in the 2008 campaign that nominated Barack Obama, and 12 Republican debates this campaign season. So far, more than 68 million viewers have watched the Republican debates while less than 24 million people have watched the Democratic debates. "

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Old 06-16-2016, 12:15 AM
 
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I'd say Debbie Wassermans' bias has been obvious-it is only natural though and it's hard to fault her; Sanders is seen as an "outsider" to the Democratic Party and was supporting someone running against her in Florida. In 2008 she was national co-chair of Hillary's campaign against Barack Obama.

She is not doing her job effectively of uniting the party by remaining neutral when articles like these are floating around.
She was just not the right person for the job, and many think her actions could even help to elect the Republican candidate in November.
Obama chose DWS as the DNC chairman in 2011. Obama, not Clinton.

Probably DWS did favor the actual Democrat who ran in this Primary. Maybe Obama was wrong and she wasn't the right person for the job. Maybe she did mess up. So what? None of that changes the fact that the DNC can not and does not promote any one candidate over another in the primary, as you claimed.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:24 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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That depends on whether you think votes should matter or not.
Votes matter, counties dont.

Hillary Clinton's overall lead has actually been growing. She was up by 390,000 election night. It has now grown to 475,000.

Many of the outstanding precincts were in Hillary Strongholds...... But lets ignore that, because Bernie winning 2,000 more votes in a county with 45,000 votes is more important than Hillary
winning 50,000 more votes in a county of 1.2 million votes.

I would also like to remind you that Glenn County, which is one of the counties listed as flipped had 1,937 votes total !!!!

And in Santa Barbara County, we are talking about a total difference of 1,400 votes.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:28 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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How do we even know. The DNC is refusing to release the raw votes in a number of states. And now it appears the entire California election is in doubt.

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the DNC does not count votes in primaries, this is not the Republican Party( they actually do count the votes in some states)

Further more, there is no raw vote in caucus states, people literally come in stand in a group and get counted and someone is declared to have more people then everyone goes home.


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Furthermore, it was rigged for Hillary when Super Delegates declared before the first vote was cast. That was horribly unfair to the other candidates
You are angry because people already knew who they would support ??????? LOL
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:33 AM
 
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DNC limited debates to six, compared to 26 in the 2008 campaign
Only 6 of those 26 debates were between Obama and Clinton.
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Old 06-16-2016, 01:05 AM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 18 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I'd say Debbie Wassermans' bias has been obvious-it is only natural though and it's hard to fault her; Sanders is seen as an "outsider" to the Democratic Party and was/is supporting someone running against her in Florida. In 2008 she was national co-chair of Hillary's campaign against Barack Obama.

She is not doing her job effectively of uniting the party by remaining neutral when articles like these are floating around. The fact that she has become so infamous is a testament in itself (even becoming the butt of the joke on SNL about the primary being "rigged").
I doubt many even know the RNC chair-person.
She was just not the right person for the job, and many think her actions could even help to elect the Republican candidate in November.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz must go, and the case Bernie Sanders must make tonight - Salon.com
Will Hillary Clinton sacrifice Wasserman Schultz to appease Bernie Sanders? - Sun Sentinel
Fire Debbie Wasserman Schultz
How Debbie Wasserman Schultz Went From Rising Star to Lightning Rod for Liberals - News

"Other complaints touched on the DNC’s choice of scheduling debates on weekends and early in the race which they claim gave Sanders a disadvantage, and setting up a joint fundraising operation with Clinton, a common practice in presidential races but one that has irked Sanders’ campaign. "

"DNC limited debates to six, compared to 26 in the 2008 campaign that nominated Barack Obama, and 12 Republican debates this campaign season. So far, more than 68 million viewers have watched the Republican debates while less than 24 million people have watched the Democratic debates. "

1. If you are going to argue the number of debates in 2015/2016 and not include town hall or forums, then you have to do the same of 2007/2008.

so the number is not 6 and 26, it is 6 and 20

2. The first Democratic debate in 2007 was April 26. The First Democrat did not even announce their candidacy in 2015 until April 30th.

In fact, Hillary didnt even get another opponent officially until May 30th.

Do you know when the first Democrats announced in 2007 ??? JANUARY !!!!!!!!!!!

You cant make an argument about the number of debates without putting them into context.

Lets also not forget that there were more of them, and they were overall more prominent.

Candidates
Barack Obama sitting U.S. Senator from Illinois,
Hillary Clinton sitting U.S. from New York
Joe Biden sitting U.S. Senator from Delaware
Chris Dodd sitting U.S. Senator from Connecticut.
Evn Bayh sitting U.S. Senator from Indiana
Bill Richardson sitting Governor of New Mexico, former U.S. rep and former sec. of energy, US ambassador to UN
Dennis Kucinich sitting U.S. rep from Ohio.

John Edwards former Senator from North Carolina and the previous V.P. pick of the party


You had people with national name recognition all of which were currently in their jobs, where as this year, all of our candidates were "Former" everything with the exception of Bernie Sanders who was at what 5% in the polls when everything started.

You have to remember that these channels arent hosting debates for free. They get ad revenue and if they feel no one is going to watch, then they are not going to pay for the honor of hosting debates, that is what happened this year.

Also adding to that is the fact that last time around, debates were hosted by Facebook, My Space, Logo/HRC and so on, some of those werent even televised.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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^I'll just leave these links here

EXPOSED: Leaked Emails Show DNC Colluded with Media to Push Clinton Nomination

Stanford University Confirms Democratic Election Fraud | Your News Wire
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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No evidence Bernie won it, he relied on many coin tosses to draw a mere tie
Of course. Democrats won't release the raw vote totals. That says coverup to me.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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Ah, this shows that the system is not rigged. lol

Mick
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