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Old 07-22-2016, 08:39 PM
 
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all those bernie supporters driving around with their bern baby bern bumper stickers were sold out up the river like a 2 dollar hoar.

 
Old 07-22-2016, 08:39 PM
 
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That's what he has done for more than 30 years though. Nothing new here.
He never really had the power to enact any sort of change on his own before. He did before throwing away his chance to actually make a difference.
 
Old 07-22-2016, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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Could he pull a Cruz or worse?
 
Old 07-22-2016, 08:46 PM
 
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He never really had the power to enact any sort of change on his own before. He did before throwing away his chance to actually make a difference.
What change would that be? Being a pariah in the Senate and Trump presidency and Trump Supreme Court? Is that the change you want? Dont you support Corporations = people and money = speech? Your wishes ring hollow if you dont understand that money=power over the political system and you are calling for opening up the floodgates.
 
Old 07-22-2016, 08:48 PM
 
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Could he pull a Cruz or worse?
I don't think so. He'll give a pretty speech about how we need to do this or that knowing damn well that Hillary will not.
 
Old 07-22-2016, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Just changed my voter affiliation from Democrat to unaffiliated. _ them.
 
Old 07-22-2016, 08:54 PM
 
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I don't think so. He'll give a pretty speech about how we need to do this or that knowing damn well that Hillary will not.
I'm wondering how this will affect the protest marches. I'd go down there if I knew a way to disembark. Philly is not protest friendly like D.C. and N.Y.

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Old 07-22-2016, 08:55 PM
 
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What change would that be? Being a pariah in the Senate and Trump presidency and Trump Supreme Court? Is that the change you want? Dont you support Corporations = people and money = speech? Your wishes ring hollow if you dont understand that money=power over the political system and you are calling for opening up the floodgates.
Sometimes you lose a battle to win the war. Money is not the problem, we are.......

I did not write this and I do not remember who did but.......it is said that power corrupts.....the question needs asked if it isn't the corrupt that is drawn to power.

Trump beat the money system because that is what the people wanted. Hillary is outspending Trump many times over but yet it's basically a tie.

How much did you get for your vote? I've never got anything for mine. My vote register the same as Charles Koch's vote. It's human nature to want to find a scapegoat.
 
Old 07-22-2016, 09:00 PM
 
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I'm wondering how this will affect the protest marches. It's go down there if I knew a way to disembark. Philly is not protest friendly like D.C. and N.Y.
I don't know.......it's a good question. I've read a lot of Bernie supporters are going to show up. Will they play along or will they continue with the message to tear it all down?

I don't know. If the country is lucky the Bernie supporters will react to Hillary the same way the RNC reacted to Cruz.
 
Old 07-22-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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Sometimes you lose a battle to win the war. Money is not the problem, we are.......

I did not write this and I do not remember who did but.......it is said that power corrupts.....the question needs asked if it isn't the corrupt that is drawn to power.

Trump beat the money system because that is what the people wanted. Hillary is outspending Trump many times over but yet it's basically a tie.

How much did you get for your vote? I've never got anything for mine. My vote register the same as Charles Koch's vote. It's human nature to want to find a scapegoat.
In other words, you support plutocracy and a rigged economy held up by a corrupt system of campaign finance.

Trump beating the money system is laughable. He is a celebrity billionaire who got billions in free advertisement from corporate media. His tax plan and his supreme court picks are like heaven for the owners of society.

You go and try running for office with no name recognition, no money and no media coverage. Good luck.
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