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Old 07-31-2016, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by Cruzincat View Post
He should have just pointed out that it was Hillary who supported the war that got their son killed, whereas he was against it all along.
Trump supported invading Iraq in 2002 - POLITICO

 
Old 07-31-2016, 08:38 AM
 
Location: CT
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Originally Posted by dechatelet View Post
Oh, please.

She and her husband didn't have to speak at all in front of millions of people if they were so "broken up."

The way they exploited their son's death to make a cheap political point is beyond disgraceful!

Well said!

It was the Khans' exploiting their own son's death for political purposes that was stupid, hateful, petty, mean, idiotic and cold-hearted.
But it was OK for the RNC to ask Pat Smith to express her grief and her political preference over her son's death. Ultimately, the Commander in Chief sent her boy to Benghazi not the SoS, so if you want to talk political theater ........... "beyond disgraceful".
 
Old 07-31-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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Trump only opens his big mouth to change FEET!
 
Old 07-31-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Tall Traveler View Post
If your son was killed in a similar situation, would you be mad at the person who voted to put him in the situation (Hillary) or the man that had better judgement then and now to make sure people we are paying to bring over and putting on our welfare don't want to kill us....Liberals are idiot hypocrites.
Well said.

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Originally Posted by JRR View Post
Maybe there are some ex Stasi agents that we could put to work doing the spying. Of course that would be against your proposed rules about no immigration but maybe the rules could be bent for the good of the country.
I'm sure we have plenty of people here who can do the job.

So I have no idea what your point is -- probably you don't have one.

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Originally Posted by snowtired14 View Post
But it was OK for the RNC to ask Pat Smith to express her grief and her political preference over her son's death. Ultimately, the Commander in Chief sent her boy to Benghazi not the SoS, so if you want to talk political theater ........... "beyond disgraceful".
My understanding is that he was a contractor. And he was working for the State Department or the CIA, not the military.

Furthermore, Trump -- unlike Hillary -- had nothing to do with Khan going to war and getting killed.

The same cannot be said when it comes to Hillary ignoring requests for additional security. Or deliberately lying to the family members of the fallen. Within a day of the attack, she told the Egyptian Prime Minister, the President of Libya, and Chelsea and Bill that the attack had nothing to do with a video. Then, later, she told the family members of the fallen that the attack was caused by a video. She and Obama pushed that lie for weeks. All so Obama could get reelected on the basis of his false claim that terrorists were being defeated.

She is a disgrace.

I love all this talk by Khan's father about Trump not sacrificing.

When did Hillary serve in the military? When did Bill? When did Barack Obama? When did Michelle Obama?

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Old 07-31-2016, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Marlow View Post
Imagine if Hillary had suggested the Benghazi victim's father didn't speak because the wife wears the pants in the family. Or asked if Trump's speech writer wrote her comments. Or suggested she (Hillary), had suffered as much as the mom because she's spent her life in public service. Trump supporters' heads would have exploded.
Worthy of a bump.

Trump could have chosen to not remark or simply acknowledged the grief of the Gold Star Family.

Instead, something from within him compels him to percieve and spin it as a competition between he and this family, in terms of sacrifice.

There's more than enough in both candidate's histories that should cause the masses to hold their noses, despite an intention to vote for one of them.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by dechatelet View Post
Maybe, unlike our other "wonderful" presidents, Trump won't have to console us because he will solve our problems.
Keep terrorists out of the country.
Keep illegal aliens -- many of whom commit serious crimes -- out of the country.
Allow people to have guns to defend themselves against terrorists and criminals.
Throw rioters, looters, vandals, arsonists and cop killers into prison where they belong.
Limit immigration so that unemployed Americans can get jobs.
Bring good jobs back to this country.
Get the economy moving, which will increase tax revenues to pay down the national debt, rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and strengthen our military.
Put an end to Obama's weak apology tour to our enemies, and get America respected again.
With Hillary, we certainly will have many moments of national tragedy -- just as with Obama.
Do you think that Trump can rule by fiat? Are you trying to elect Emperor Trump, or President Trump. Congress would not act on 90% of the crap you just listed and 'throwing rioters and cop killers in prison' is not a federal responsibility, so how will that happen? replace local police with the national guard?
 
Old 07-31-2016, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17 View Post
hmmm..



There is actually a thread on this already.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ms-mother.html
Chris Matthews is not running for POTUS.

There is no shortage of partisan news entertainers who express opinions as facts and who say things with the intent to influence and offend.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Marlow View Post
Since you know when to keep your mouth shut and can respond thoughtfully to questions, I'd vote for you over Trump any day.

Let's assume HC lied to that mom, even though it's hearsay. Lying is bad and she should not have done it. But if the mom made remarks about Trump like she did about HC, Trump would have responded in a personal, petty, hateful way. You know it's true. HC has not maligned that grieving mother even though the mother has made serious accusations against her. She kept her mouth shut, which is all anyone wants Trump to do.
Well stated.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 08:58 AM
JRR
 
Location: Middle Tennessee
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OK, i guess I'll have to be a bit less subtle about my comment about ex Stasi agents could be used to spy on Muslims in the US. The Stasi was the East German security agency that was charged with spying on the East German citizens. So I guess that some people are OK with using tactics on the population of the US similar to those which were used in East Germany or presently being used in North Korea.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by NOLA101 View Post
Wait, what?

You are saying the Khans don't have a right to voice their opinion re. their son's death if it's political in nature?

There is NOTHING wrong with politicizing things. This is POLITICS. This is an election. I would certainly HOPE that everything said in a POLITICAL convention has some basis in politics.

It would actually be nice, for once, if Trump politicized issues. That would be very refreshing change. Instead of just spouting out nonsense; maybe have a rational thought based in public policy, rather than respond to a political question with "I'd like to kick that guy in the head!".
The emotional outbursts seem to resonate well with a substantial portion of the public.

At the end of the day, there is very little within either candidate's intentions that does not require An Act of Congress.

It's foolish to assume that a Congress will go along with all intentions even when the majority party is aligned with the POTUS party.

Minimum Wage will be one of those pesky issues.

Obama admin pitched the $10.10 thing which failed to gain traction.

Hillary was at $10. Trump said the American people make too much.

As a concession to Bernie, Hillary is paying lip service to $15, knowing it's not going to happen.
Trump has evolved and is talking about something in the range of $10.

How likely is it that Congress will support a double whammy of at least $10/ hr and a federal mandate for E- verify given the powerful Chamber of Commerce opposes both measures?
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