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Old 08-01-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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Remember, it's in the interest of the pollsters to keep the drama going. They don't make money if the polls show either side with landslide victory.

Shame however that Reuters has jumped into the sewage pit with the likes of CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC.

Pat Caddell on 'Cooked' Reuters Poll: 'Never in My Life Have I Seen a News Organization Do Something So Dishonest' - Breitbart
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Old 08-01-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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Remember, it's in the interest of the pollsters to keep the drama going. They don't make money if the polls show either side with landslide victory.

Shame however that Reuters has jumped into the sewage pit with the likes of CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC.

Pat Caddell on 'Cooked' Reuters Poll: 'Never in My Life Have I Seen a News Organization Do Something So Dishonest' - Breitbart
I don't agree with you on anything but this I agree with. With 2012, they said it was known that Romney would likely lose for weeks but the media needs the ratings so they will keep this a horse race to the end.
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Old 08-01-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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I don't agree with you on anything but this I agree with. With 2012, they said it was known that Romney would likely lose for weeks but the media needs the ratings so they will keep this a horse race to the end.
The polls in 2012 pretty much all showed a small, but constant lead for Obama. However, you had articles like this complaing about the polls, hell there was even an unskewed polls website to change the results of polls.
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Old 08-01-2016, 04:07 PM
 
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Yes, every news organization is out to get Mr. Trump . . . . . Even Fox News and NY Post (a lesbian nude photo shoot of Melania many decades ago).

Funny, the same polling firms are legit whenever Mr. Trump is shown to be ahead (which is rare, I admit).

Mick
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Old 08-01-2016, 04:10 PM
 
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Relax, Waldo..

We need them to think they will win.
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Old 08-01-2016, 04:12 PM
 
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Too funny- I saw him out to eat a couple of weeks ago in SC. He is a bit of a political opportunist who worked for Carter eons ago but basically makes bank being the disaffected Democrat. I used to know a quasi niece of his and he is basically a political gadfly/rabble-rouser instead of a true consultant.

FWIW- in both 2004 (the exit polls) and 2012 (polls leading up to the election) the problem wasn't so much the polling as the pollsters inability to adjust their sample size to the actual demographics. The problem they had in 2012 was that Romney won a percentage of the white vote that would have carried any other election but that election also saw much higher minority voting totals. And the Romney collapse among Asians and Latinos really didn't seem to be noticed since pollsters misestimated their likelihood to vote. That's why their is always a gap between registered voters and likely voters. Dems do better among registered voters but R voters are more likely to make it to the voting booth. SO over time pollsters have tried to accommodate that.
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