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Old 08-03-2016, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Lyndarn View Post
Well, It appears there is some sort of "INTERVENTION" being planned. I hear numerous suggestion to the fact..never mind other reports Manafort's advice has been reduced to email advice..Me thinks even He has given up which very well could explain why the marshalling of both Family and Political Heavyweights planning to intervene~~

The fact that Morningstar is addressing this indicates Trump's Verbal diarrhea of continuous faux pas that has obviously affected the Stock Market ( look at past weeks decline)
Gingrich, Giuliani reportedly planning to spearhead a Trump 'intervention'

NBC: Giuliani, Gingrich, Priebus

NBC: Giuliani, Gingrich, Priebus
Both Christie and Carson have publicly called Trump's behavior inappropriate.

Then there's this week's Trump reaction about work harassment.

Trumps kids are in damage control mode. Don Jr dug a deeper hole. Ivanka shared the Trump org policy on harassment.

His campaign manager is in CYA ( his behind) mode, making clear he manages those things Trump asks him to do, not Mr Trump.

As for me, I think he meets every criteria for a Narcissistic Personality Disorder throughout his adult life.

Inflated sense of self importance

Deep need for attention and admiration

Lack of empathy for others

Behind the mask lies a fragile self esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest critism.

NPD may respond to talk therapy. Age 70 is a tad too old for most people to want to change, let alone do so.

Last edited by middle-aged mom; 08-03-2016 at 02:27 PM..

 
Old 08-03-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by tamajane View Post
He speaks totally off the top of his head, it's not easy to sound eloquent when doing that. It is just his style. If Hillary said everything she thought and off the top of her head it would be a fright fest.

Trump's brash style is not doing him any favors but it doesn't mean he's crazy. Many of us know people like him, they can rub people the wrong way even if they are not wrong in what they are saying. It is why people from Portland or San Francisco don't get Bostonians or New Yorkers personalities. Doesn't mean either of them are mentally ill.
No, just, no. He clearly exhibits disordered processes of language. Both receptive lay and expressively. I have 40 years of expertise in this realm to back up my observations. Whether this is due to dementia, Alzheimer's, Aphasia...etc., has not been determined. But it is there.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Originally Posted by Enigma777 View Post
People who have to be 'intervened' don't think they have a problem. What they are all complaining about is that he doesn't listen to anyone. Unless they plan to give him a lobotomy, this is not going to work. He thinks he is always right and always wonderful. He's 70. He is not going to change and he has ADD--easily distracted by shiny objects. The guy is nuts.
Yep But it shouldn't any surprise really

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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Both Christie and Carson have publicly called Trump's behavior inappropriate.

Then there's this week's Trump reaction about work harassment.

Trumps kids are in damage control mode. Don Jr dug a deeper hole. Ivanka made shared the Trump org policy on harassment.


His campaign manager is in CYA ( his behind) mode, making clear he manages those things Trump asks him to do, not Mr Trump.

As for me, I think he met every criteria for a Narcissistic Personality Disorder, decades ago.
Yepper Those who continue to excuse his horrific rally incoherent rally spectacles of divisive and self-engraciating talk . By definition it's called!!

Self-aggrandizing - definition of self-aggrandizing by The Free Dictionary
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self-aggrandizing
Also found in: Thesaurus.
self-ag·gran·dize·ment (sĕlf′ə-grăn′dĭz-mənt)
n.
The act or practice of enhancing or exaggerating one's own importance, power, or reputation.
IF you watch him and his body language..The cheers obviously feed some need for " having his ego stroked!! ..It's like an elixir for his soul
 
Old 08-03-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Both Christie and Carson have publicly called Trump's behavior inappropriate.

Then there's this week's Trump reaction about work harassment.

Trumps kids are in damage control mode. Don Jr dug a deeper hole. Ivanka shared the Trump org policy on harassment.

His campaign manager is in CYA ( his behind) mode, making clear he manages those things Trump asks him to do, not Mr Trump.

As for me, I think he meets every criteria for a Narcissistic Personality Disorder throughout his adult life.

Inflated sense of self importance

Deep need for attention and admiration

Lack of empathy for others

Behind the mask lies a fragile self esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest critism.

NPD may respond to talk therapy. Age 70 is a tad too old for most people to want to change, let alone do so.
Yes, I (and several others here on CD) wrote this and posted the VERY CLEAR DSM5 description MONTHS AGO. Here it is in its entirety again.

Narcissistic personality disorder Symptoms - Mayo Clinic

"Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and other areas of their life, such as work or school.

If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may feel a sense of entitlement — and when you don't receive special treatment, you may become impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — for instance, the best car, athletic club or medical care.

At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. Or you may feel depressed and moody because you fall short of perfection.

Many experts use the criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), published by the American Psychiatric Association, to diagnose mental conditions. This manual is also used by insurance companies to reimburse for treatment.

DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerating your achievements and talents
Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
Requiring constant admiration
Having a sense of entitlement
Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
Taking advantage of others to get what you want
Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Being envious of others and believing others envy you
Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner
Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal and value yourself more than you value others."

He easily qualifies for treatment. That would be a better use of his time.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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wait everyone, we haven't yet finished the day


be sympathetic...hug a Trump supporter tomorrow
 
Old 08-03-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ghengis View Post
wait everyone, we haven't yet finished the day


be sympathetic...hug a Trump supporter tomorrow


I'm a Trump supporter.
I fully support his destruction of the GOP.
Ghengis, thanks, but no thanks on the hug.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 03:23 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Captain Obvious has this to say:

"The Trump Campaign has some serious problems. It is unraveling before our very eyes."
 
Old 08-03-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Geeo View Post
At first I thought he was just self-centered and spoiled. But now that I have the chance to see him every day, I see that attention is his oxygen. Without it, he curls up and dies. He needs to be the center of attention, he will make himself the center of attention, and he knows that his followers hang and believe every word, no matter how insane. No other presidential candidate would ever have gotten this far saying the outrageous things he's saying. The old Republican party is officially dead, and it's sad.
That's pretty much what the guy that wrote Art of the Deal said. His first article about Trump was quite critical but Trump didn't mind it a bit because it was about Trump. And when he started listening in on Trump's calls, he said Trump loved it, he would say anything, he just loved having an audience so much.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 04:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by charolastra00 View Post
An ellipsis is used to refer to intentionally missing words or phrases. Which words are phrases are missing in each of your posts? I have to assume the logical rationale for why you would vote for Trump since that seems to be lacking.

The fact stands - you never have a moment off as the president. If someone cannot handle the pressures of the campaign, then they are not fit to be president. Trump's outbursts when questioned, lack of policy foresight, and lack of diplomacy are not new (he has never been fit to serve), but they have certainly been exacerbated by the campaign.
With this we will assume this is why Hillary will stick to the same failed polices as her boss. Easier to follow the slow horse than to follow a race horse.


Hillary claims that she "just doesn't know" and "wipe it with a cloth" along with putting a server in the bathroom. Now was she typing while going to the bathroom? Does she have to be close by to a bathroom, afraid of accidents? After all, its a known fact they had to place her closer to the bathroom than any other candidate and some suggested she was held up in the bathroom when she would arrive late.


Seems your candidate has some issues of her own. I think we can handle a person who exhibits a few gaffs before becoming President, than to appoint someone willing to make a quick decision to get to the restroom. With ALL of Hillary's experience one would think she would be way past making any mistakes sending emails.


Have any of you bothered to look at the emails and see how her and her staff belittled people? Neither Hillary or the President were asking generals to make military decisions. One email her and the President were emailing back and forth on whether they should bomb Libya, while her and Bill were watching Game of Thrones.


For a person who thought nothing was in those emails, she is sure wiping them off the Internet. Along with falsely accusing a man with a video for the attack on Benghazi, this should not be taken lightly, it was a terrorist attack. Why is she protecting terrorist?
 
Old 08-03-2016, 04:06 PM
 
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Yes, I (and several others here on CD) wrote this and posted the VERY CLEAR DSM5 description MONTHS AGO. Here it is in its entirety again.

Narcissistic personality disorder Symptoms - Mayo Clinic

"Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and other areas of their life, such as work or school.

If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may feel a sense of entitlement — and when you don't receive special treatment, you may become impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — for instance, the best car, athletic club or medical care.

At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. Or you may feel depressed and moody because you fall short of perfection.

Many experts use the criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), published by the American Psychiatric Association, to diagnose mental conditions. This manual is also used by insurance companies to reimburse for treatment.

DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerating your achievements and talents
Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
Requiring constant admiration
Having a sense of entitlement
Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
Taking advantage of others to get what you want
Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Being envious of others and believing others envy you
Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner
Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal and value yourself more than you value others."

He easily qualifies for treatment. That would be a better use of his time.
This description also fits Hillary and President Obama......so what would be new? 8 more years of Obama? I'd rather have a change and figure it out in 4 yrs, Hillary won't run again. It would only leave Chelsea.....and by then hopefully, she will have too many children to consider this challenge.
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