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Old 08-02-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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What's with this guy...does he change his mind every five minutes?
Which guy are you talking about?

Trump does change his mind a lot.

Silver aggregates other people's polls, so any changes in the odds he gives are due to changes in the polling.

 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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So do you think that number will fluctuate over the course of 99 days?
Sure. And I said so.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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What's with this guy...does he change his mind every five minutes?


Apparently he does. He had Trump winning just 7 days ago.

I'd say Silver has flatlined his credibility. Not worth listening to, whatever he has to say.


CN
 
Old 08-02-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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Apparently he does. He had Trump winning just 7 days ago.

I'd say Silver has flatlined his credibility. Not worth listening to, whatever he has to say.


CN
Times change. As the polling changes, so do the odds that Silver gives.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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Sure. And I said so.
So therefore for essentially 100% of people reading this message board, that number is meaningless, right now...right?
 
Old 08-02-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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The typical shortsighted view...

"If the election were held today..."

Well, the election isn't being held today. Someone pass the word around.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 10:04 AM
 
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So therefore for essentially 100% of people reading this message board, that number is meaningless, right now...right?
Depends on what interests you when you are following politics.

Personally, I love following the numbers. They are a fascinating reflection of shifts in the electorate.

But then I trained as a biologist, so I find shifting frequencies in a population intrinsically interesting.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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Odds for elections do not work this way. Nothing happened to cause them to go 57% for Trump to 83% for Hillary in such a short time frame.

It never happened. I'm not saying Trump was ever at 57% or Hillary isn't at 83% if there was even a real way to measure this and there isn't but those swings did not happen.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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Odds for elections do not work this way. Nothing happened to cause them to go 57% for Trump to 83% for Hillary in such a short time frame.

It never happened. I'm not saying Trump was ever at 57% or Hillary isn't at 83% if there was even a real way to measure this and there isn't but those swings did not happen.
Don't mistake the odds that Silver gives for the underlying raw numbers from the polling. They're not the same. For one thing, Silver's odds take the electoral college into account.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 10:08 AM
 
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Don't mistake the odds that Silver gives for the underlying raw numbers. They're not the same.
I'm speaking about the odds Silver puts out as that is the topic.
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