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Old 08-02-2016, 11:24 PM
 
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So you concede that you don't know and that all vets don't feel the same about everything?
I concede that I don't know what my next door neighbor thinks. So what? Does that mean I can't have an opinion? There are several veterans in my family. My Dad served in WWII, my uncle in Korea and my fiancee died in Vietnam. Trump makes a mockery of their service to our country.

Now you are trolling me. So it's time to stop this back & forth.

 
Old 08-02-2016, 11:26 PM
 
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I concede that I don't know what my next door neighbor thinks. So what? Does that mean I can't have an opinion? There are several veterans in my family. My Dad served in WWII, my uncle in Korea and my fiancee died in Vietnam. Trump makes a mockery of their service to our country.

Now you are trolling me. So it's time to stop this back & forth.
You can totally have an opinion! I disagree with your opinion about mockery and such.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 12:06 AM
 
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Trump - DRAFT DODGER- He had a bad toe. Boohoo. Trump is a coward.
You spelled his name correctly.

You correctly described his previous medical condition.

Your last two sentences probably = correct sentiments (I don't care, I'm not a Trump supporter).

Capitalizing DRAFT DODGER doesn't make it any less a lie.

As another poster correctly noted (as a criticism), Trump got multiple deferments.

People can deride both with equal measure if they wish (being a dodger, and obtaining deferments), but they are different things entirely and equal derision doesn't make calling one the other any more correct.

Khan was on CNN with Anderson Cooper a few hours ago restating the draft dodger line again. People shouldn't make accusations unless they have the facts straight. Of course some might have the facts straight, but just don't care because they would rather lie to further a particular agenda than tell the truth.

Some might say 'Trump doesn't care about being accurate, so why should people criticizing him care about being accurate'. That is 'little kid logic'.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 12:09 AM
 
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How many people received deferments?

Deferment = draft dodger = terrible person?

Sounds like it might be insulting to a lot of people.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 12:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by eddiehaskell View Post
How many people received deferments?

Deferment = draft dodger = terrible person?

Sounds like it might be insulting to a lot of people.
No -- only the self-described "most militaristic guy you've ever seen", who wants to "go after the families of terrorists" and torture "even if it doesn't work."

In that case ^, draft dodger = terrible person...

He's a classic chicken hawk...

...And his sons take up guns and head overseas to shoot helpless leopards and elephants, posing like mr. macho with their severed tails in hand (phallic-like), while other guys ship out to iraq and afghanistan...

The sons of "most militaristic guy you've ever seen" didn't think of serving (or even donating those thousands of $$ they spent on safari to better causes).

The trumps are classic chicken hawks... War is an action movie to these guys.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 12:45 AM
 
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No -- only the self-described "most militaristic guy you've ever seen", who wants to "go after the families of terrorists" and torture "even if it doesn't work."

In that case ^, draft dodger = terrible person...

He's a classic chicken hawk...

...And his sons take up guns and head overseas to shoot helpless leopards and elephants, posing like mr. macho with their severed tails in hand (phallic-like), while other guys ship out to iraq and afghanistan...

The sons of "most militaristic guy you've ever seen" didn't think of serving (or even donating those thousands of $$ they spent on safari to better causes).

The trumps are classic chicken hawks... War is an action movie to these guys.
Wow! Did trump actually refer to himself in that way?! (Bold) LOL. I guess I missed that one. Easy to do with the sheer volume...

Can't rep you again, but spot on!
 
Old 08-03-2016, 12:46 AM
 
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No -- only the self-described "most militaristic guy you've ever seen", who wants to "go after the families of terrorists" and torture "even if it doesn't work."

In that case ^, draft dodger = terrible person...

He's a classic chicken hawk...

...And his sons take up guns and head overseas to shoot helpless leopards and elephants, posing like mr. macho with their severed tails in hand (phallic-like), while other guys ship out to iraq and afghanistan...

The sons of "most militaristic guy you've ever seen" didn't think of serving (or even donating those thousands of $$ they spent on safari to better causes).

The trumps are classic chicken hawks... War is an action movie to these guys.
Your logic makes no sense.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 12:59 AM
 
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This story is going to stick around for days. Lots of veterans starting to speak about it:

Tammy Duckworth Joins Purple Heart Veterans Blasting Trump for 'Repugnant' Comments - ABC News
 
Old 08-03-2016, 02:22 AM
 
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Trump acted like a child with the Purple Heart. He even said the not so bright liked him. I'm inclined to believe the not so bright makes up most of his followers. You can see the lights are on and nobody's home.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 03:26 AM
 
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So you concede that you don't know and that all vets don't feel the same about everything?
It turns out that the event was taped and that, even if not all veterans in existence were "in the room", it turns out that "in the room" is a concept that got expanded to "anyone with a TV, newspaper, friend who mentioned it, or the internet".

A lot of veterans - and others, because it isn't just veterans who have a problem with this - feel sufficiently that how trump responded was 'crass, tasteless, selfish, ... insert whatever word they have used...' to speak up about it. Having an event taped and shown to the general public does a wonderful thing - it allows those who were not "in the room" to react and respond to what transpired "in the room".

As far as the truism that "all vets don't feel the same about everything"... that concept applies to everyone, everywhere. All liberals, all women, all muslims, all conservatives, all those in any other specific demographic, all those in any of the political parties. Again, it seems that a lot of people within all those descriptors feel differently about the possibility of trump as president than you do. Your opinion is not the only one that matters.
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