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Old 08-06-2016, 06:19 PM
 
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Why do you judge people by the color of their skin?
No, so don't be cute. There's no question that when you see video clips of U.S. Green Party rallies, they are overwhelmingly white. So it's an obvious fact to point out and speculate about the reasons. Lack of appeal to visible minorities for some reason? No interest in attracting visible minorities? What is the reason? Do you believe that conversations about ethnic issues are unmentionable for some reason?
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Old 08-06-2016, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Hm... I know a guy who went deaf and had a leg amputated due to meningitis when he was a kid, a type that can be prevented with a vaccine, which wasn't available in the country where he was raised... even if there's a small chance of contracting such an infection without a vaxx, the odds of a vaxx going horribly wrong are far, far tinier. Who does the scare mongering? Not "Big Pharma" or "Big Nurses" or "Big Boogeymen"....
No, it's "Big Antivax".

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Here's Wakefraud's: https://www.google.com/search?q=joe+...efield+mansion (Upper left)
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Old 08-06-2016, 06:58 PM
 
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No, so don't be cute. There's no question that when you see video clips of U.S. Green Party rallies, they are overwhelmingly white.
So what are you saying? Whites are bad?

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So it's an obvious fact to point out and speculate about the reasons. Lack of appeal to visible minorities for some reason? No interest in attracting visible minorities? What is the reason? Do you believe that conversations about ethnic issues are unmentionable for some reason?
I think it's wrong to single people out over color. And that would apply to doing so here also. Stein and Johnson both have positions that would benefit poor inner city citizens in a huge way. Both are against throwing people in jail over non aggressive offenses.

Those who have been protesting over those sorts of actions are supporting the third parties or maybe you haven't been paying attention.

Besides......you made a baseless claim with nothing to back that claim up which is why in hindsight I really should have just ignored it.
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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You thought a third rate rock concert was high on people's list? A gay nightclub?

You can not stop those intent on doing harm by curtailing the rights of the law abiding. Most of it is just for show at that.
Those were both U.S. citizens that did those and they were until that point mostly law abiding. I fail to see the issue with giving up a few freedoms for a collective good. What's worse, not hiding phone records or searches or being killed because you don't think law abiding citizens would ever pull something? You have to pick here.
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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So what are you saying? Whites are bad?



I think it's wrong to single people out over color. And that would apply to doing so here also. Stein and Johnson both have positions that would benefit poor inner city citizens in a huge way. Both are against throwing people in jail over non aggressive offenses.

Those who have been protesting over those sorts of actions are supporting the third parties or maybe you haven't been paying attention.

Besides......you made a baseless claim with nothing to back that claim up which is why in hindsight I really should have just ignored it.
"Nothing to back that claim up".... just videos, photos, the Internet.... the Internet is great, you can easily search for these things.

Nope, I never said whites are "bad," that's just a freaky conclusion to jump to. Diversity and inclusiveness are good for America. A party that can't diversify its base is going to encounter problems gaining the votes it needs to go seriously mainstream. An obvious criticism, one levelled at other fringe parties and candidates time and time again. Nothing new there.
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:47 PM
 
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Those were both U.S. citizens that did those and they were until that point mostly law abiding. I fail to see the issue with giving up a few freedoms for a collective good. What's worse, not hiding phone records or searches or being killed because you don't think law abiding citizens would ever pull something? You have to pick here.
Giving up our freedoms and liberties are always worse. Always.
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:49 PM
 
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"Nothing to back that claim up".... just videos, photos, the Internet.... the Internet is great, you can easily search for these things.
You made the claim, not me. I have no obligation to defend your positions. If you won't, well.......

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Nope, I never said whites are "bad," that's just a freaky conclusion to jump to. Diversity and inclusiveness are good for America. A party that can't diversify its base is going to encounter problems gaining the votes it needs to go seriously mainstream. An obvious criticism, one levelled at other fringe parties and candidates time and time again. Nothing new there.
You missed Cornell West's endorsement? Or is he not black enough?
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Old 08-06-2016, 08:00 PM
 
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You made the claim, not me. I have no obligation to defend your positions. If you won't, well.......



You missed Cornell West's endorsement? Or is he not black enough?
The exception that proves the rule.
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Old 08-06-2016, 08:00 PM
 
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The exception that proves the rule.
So you claim.
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Old 08-06-2016, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Giving up our freedoms and liberties are always worse. Always.
Tell that to those that lost loved ones in the various terrorist attacks we've seen that easily could have been prevented with airing on the side of security to protect those attending or near the event.
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