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View Poll Results: Do you know why we can't use nuclear weapons?
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Who cares?

Did Trump say it?
That's a non-answer. I will have to assume you meant that she was in fact lying or that there is no point in the Trump campaign having a spokesperson because nothing they say can be trusted unless it came from the candidate himself.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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A call out to Republican who choose to have a less adversarial mindset: Look around, of all the nations in the world, America is a good performing country. In 7.5 Years we have an economy that is far improved over where it was in 2008, The Automotive companies are performing better than they have since the 1960's. The stock market has never been as high as it is, we have controls in place to monitor banks, something which has not been functioning since the FDR plan was first implemented, and we are still working to reign in the criminal mentality on Wall Street. People today who never could afford medical care, today gets treatments and we have people who pay premiums, today are not denied coverage when they need it and they are not being summarily denied care.
Since the days of Reagan, we are not getting back to reasonable University Expense, and pushing to return to a University system that functioned well until Ronald Reagan set in motion the stripping away of their funding. We have a society that again is thinking about Mental Health Care which has not been a positive push since the days Ronald Reagan took away the funding and threw those people in the streets, "sadly those people multipled and made babies and those babies grew up and had more babies< all by people with severe mental issues".

We are not in Iraq as we were with thousands of our people being maimed. We can't undo the millions we've killed nor the millions that have become displaced since the Invasion of Iraq, but we are working on things. When those nations were destabilized, all the radical elements rose up, when we know it took, strong arms to manage and contain them, but that was destroyed when we lit up the Middle East with Bombs, Troops and set up a Weapons Network that can't be shut down. Every nut with a few 1000 dollars and access to the people in the region with money, now can buy weapons of war, Thanks to the Bush-Cheney War Express System.

It's time for Republican who are thinking people to stop fighting the American system and stop supporting the madness of block and tackle and get with the programs and push a message of positivism. They have been on this contrite cycle of fighting anything and everything and digging in the trench and gutter looking for something to fight.
Yet, they have not one time chose to look at the Republican Following CEO, who are the main core of Our Industry being Outsourced. The sad reality is many of the Major Corporate Executive Teams are Republican, and these are the same organizations who buy companies and crash them, buy companies and strip them, outsource anything and everything, and then push some robotic system as if American people don't need to work.

We've see every area where people push this anguish and fill slots with Republican Minded Leaders, we have havoc and despair, 90% of Red States are dependent on the same Public Services that Republicans claim to fight against, but we have more Republican Minded people who profit greatly from the proceeds expended on Public Service Programs.

We are not going back to any Jim Crow System, and the Confederacy lost the War Decades Ago. This is what Republican especially the far right leaning ones must understand. There is no such thing as Fiscal Conservatives, when one look at the truth and reality of Republican Expenditure and the Republican led Contribution to our Debt issues.

EXAMPLE:
We spent $30+ BILLION A MONTH, in Iraq, another $20+BILLION A MONTH in Afghanistan, not to mention an addition loss of $30 BILLION A MONTH, just with China in Trade Imbalance, along with every other nations Trade imbalances, which COST US.
At or More Than, $100 BILLION "every month", for more than a Decade = $1.2+TRILLION A YEAR, for a total of more than $12+ TRILLION over a Decade beginning with Bush, one has to be truthful in seeing reality, not being duped by media fiction.

LET'S GET REAL
Politicians both parties, want to spend money on what they want to spend it on, and the key word is "spend", so its time to dispense with this delusion of Fiscal Conservative. IT DOES NOT EXIST.

It's time to stop fighting everything and stop with this Anti-government stuff, and realize, this nation is great because of its governance !!!!!! and then it is the people within and who function under that governance that makes it all that it is.

Get-over this delusion of race, because we will never go backwards and the history of ignorance that created the madness is a time we must recon with, not deny, not play deflection games and pretending it did not happen and did not exist, and wake the heck up and move forward, to do so, if to acknowlege the past, indulge about it, that we can find means to work through the troubles the past has inflicted upon us in this day and time. "wake up and let move ahead people"; We have a wonderful future to build.
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There is not going to be any more segregation, no more jim crow, no more using police to contain minorities, no more playing games with voting rights, and no more redistricting games to play political jump seat, and no more pushing one group down to play fictions while manipulating another group.

We are American, the sooner The Right Wing stop fighting that point, fact and premise, then we have unity as a nation and we can move forward.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Trump has been telling us for months. There is nothing new here.

He is an idiot. The people who voted for him are idiots. The Republican establishment who failed to educate their supporters are idiots.

He will get elected by the Honey Boo Boo watching idiots.

Ever heard of radiation poisoning, idiots? Air moves.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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No need to read any further than the bolded part of your post. There are no "benefits" to using nuclear weapons. None. Their only value is as a deterrent. And the fact that Trump and his supporters don't know this is terrifying.
Of course there are benefits as stated, which is why tactical nuclear weapons were developed as well as ERWs. Even provided a historical example of considered tactical use.
A person can quiver in fear at the thought or acknowledge the realites of implemntation.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Trump has been telling us for months. There is nothing new here.

He is an idiot. The people who voted for him are idiots. The Republican establishment who failed to educate their supporters are idiots.

He will get elected by the Honey Boo Boo watching idiots.

Ever heard of radiation poisoning, idiots? Air moves.
Great post. The optimist in me wants to be believe that a majority of Americans aren't this gullible but it seems a lot of em are. Sad.
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:01 AM
 
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Of course there are benefits as stated, which is why tactical nuclear weapons were developed as well as ERWs.
A person can quiver in fear at the thought or acknowledge the realites of implemtation.
So tell me, what do you envision the world looking like after a nuclear attack? If the U.S. used even one nuclear weapon against an adversary the world would turn against us en masse, and we would deserve it. The same would be true of any country that did so.

Your kind of thinking is a danger to the survival of humanity. As is Trump's.
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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Great post. The optimist in me wants to be believe that a majority of Americans aren't this gullible but it seems a lot of em are. Sad.


What was the lure that got their support for Trump. Was it just the " Wall " and his celebrity ? But even if so, why the " Cult of Trump " ? They are loyal, they would kill for him as he joked once. Why is he the cult leader ?
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:05 AM
 
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The optimist in me says if Trump were elected and was dumb enough to try, the military would shut him down fast.
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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So tell me, what do you envision the world looking like after a nuclear attack? If the U.S. used even one nuclear weapon against an adversary the world would turn against us en masse, and we would deserve it. The same would be true of any country that did so.

Your kind of thinking is a danger to the survival of humanity. As is Trump's.
I do not see that happening if it eradicated a menace to governments everywhere.

These groups we have been battling for years only respect and fear force. Not diplomacy.

Again, this is why our professional military have planning for the tactical use of weapons. Whether we firestrom a society or use nuclear weapons is makes no difference regarding the end result. Nuclear weapons are a political messsage as well.
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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These groups we have been battling for years only respect and fear force. Not diplomacy.


I'm quite sure he was referring to our other western allies, who would in fact find the use of any kind of nuclear weapon to be a contemptible act and would turn against us, and NOT to our terrorist enemies.

As to our terrorist enemies, why should anyone care what they think?

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