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Old 08-04-2016, 04:50 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Here is a full list of the platform:

Platform - Jill Stein for President

The platform is divided into categories: Climate Change, Jobs, Poverty, Health Care, Education, Economic, Social Freedoms, Criminal Justice, Foreign Policy, Electoral Reform, Financial Reform (aka Banks), and Housing.

Let's discuss!
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Old 08-04-2016, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Looks expensive.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:03 PM
 
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Looks expensive.
More so than what we are wasting on the wars or bribing other countries?
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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More so than what we are wasting on the wars or bribing other countries?
Honestly, yes. I bet if you married the costs of each, Jill's plan less wars/bribes would still be astronomical.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I don't think the platform speaks to what is motivating the electorate in this cycle:

1) The system is rigged.

2) Government is working for itself and the top .1 of 1%.

3) People are hurting because of all the money that is being usurped by government and bring transferred to the economic and political elite.

Spending more money just means more money going to the top 1%.

Sanders was popular because her talked about the rigged system. However, he lost many when he advocated more government spending which at the end only benefits the corrupt political and economic system.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:08 PM
 
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Honestly, yes. I bet if you married the costs of each, Jill's plan less wars/bribes would still be astronomical.
Nobody ever gets everything. Let's see that some of those things are the wars.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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More so than what we are wasting on the wars or bribing other countries?
The problem is that it is impossible to separate government spending from government corruption. There is just too much money which attracts the worse kind of people as we can see in the current slates of the major parties.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:11 PM
 
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The problem is that it is impossible to separate government spending from government corruption.
No it is not.......now, by me saying that I am not denying that government corruption isn't a huge problem and doesn't need addressed.

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There is just too much money which attracts the worse kind of people as we can see in the current slates of the major parties.
Which in part brings us to discussing a third party.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:12 PM
 
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The problem is that it is impossible to separate government spending from government corruption. There is just too much money which attracts the worse kind of people as we can see in the current slates of the major parties.
This platform is insane. Once there is a right to jobs and healthcare, it means you receive a job and healthcare just b/c you're still alive. That would require businesses to give people jobs even if the business does not have any openings and even if the person with a right to a job cannot deliver in the roles that the business is seeking to staff. It would mean healthcare providers cannot charge for their services.

Utter drivel.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Looks to me like we'll save Trillions and Trillions by ending the wars-including war on "drugs", nationalizing healthcare and the Federal Reserve, repealing the Patriot Act/NSA, ending the Billions in foreign aid, etc.

Break up “too-big-to-fail” banks and democratize the Federal Reserve.
Establish federal, state, and municipal publicly-owned banks that function as non-profit utilities and focus on helping people, not enriching themselves.

Make Wall Street, big corporations, and the rich pay their fair share of taxes.

End the failed war on drugs. Replace drug prohibition with harm reduction. Legalize marijuana/hemp. Treat substance abuse as a health problem, not a criminal offense.
Release nonviolent drug offenders from prison, removing such offenses from their records, and provide them with both pre- and post-release support.

Repeal the Patriot Act that violates our constitutional right to privacy and protection against unreasonable search and seizure.

Establish a foreign policy based on diplomacy, international law, human rights, and nonviolent support for democratic movements around the world.
Cut military spending by at least 50% and close the 700+ foreign military bases.

Stop U.S. financial and military support to human rights abusers. Barring substantial changes in their policies, this would include Saudi Arabia, Israel and Egypt.

End the destructive US economic and military intervention into the affairs of sovereign nations. Such intervention serve the interests of multinational corporations and global capitalism over the interests of the vast majority of the citizens of those nation

End the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, withdrawing troops and military contractors.

Eliminate the doctrine of corporate personhood that among other things has been used to justify unlimited corporate spending in elections with a constitutional amendment to clarify that only human beings have constitutional rights.

Require full disclosure of corporate subsidies in the budget and stop hiding subsidies in complicated tax code.

Eliminate the cancer of health insurance, which adds costs while reducing access to health care, at huge savings by eliminating the $400 billion annually spent on the paperwork and bureaucracy of health insurance.
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