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A business man is free to be an opportunist. A business man's only loyalty is to the dollar and shareholders. They SHOULD support anyone that benefits their own interest as long as it isn't breaking any laws. Do you rage against all the companies that ship jobs off to other countries to make bigger profits?
Yes, I do rage against companies that offshore American jobs for corporate profits. And so does Donald Trump, even though he has done this for years and continues to do this today. The real question is, why aren't YOU railing against that, since that's the position Trump is claiming? Why is it okay for Trump to do it but no one else?
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He'll be a politician the day he receives a paycheck from the American taxpayers.
He became a politician the moment he threw his hat in the political ring.
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He'll be a RINO the day he doesn't support the positions he held the day before he's elected president.
He's a RINO now. No one in the REPUBLICAN party wants him there. That makes him a true "Republican in name only," since his own party has rejected him. He has the label on the ballot but nothing else.
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What he did as a private citizen business man is irrelevant.
What he did as a private citizen is the only thing we have to gauge him on. What else should we look at when we are assessing him for the job?
Yes, I do rage against companies that offshore American jobs for corporate profits. And so does Donald Trump, even though he has done this for years and continues to do this today. The real question is, why aren't YOU railing against that, since that's the position Trump is claiming? Why is it okay for Trump to do it but no one else?
But he SHOULD have been doing it. And those companies you rage against SHOULD do it. As a stock holder, I want a company to maximize profits by any legal means nessesary. I would call Trump a BAD business man if he leaves money on the table by manufacturing in the US. However, a politician is in a position to change policy that may make outsourcing less appealing and less of a competitive requirement.
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He became a politician the moment he threw his hat in the political ring.
He became a candidate for a political office. Last I checked, a candidate isn't on the public dole.
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He's a RINO now. No one in the REPUBLICAN party wants him there. That makes him a true "Republican in name only," since his own party has rejected him. He has the label on the ballot but nothing else.
Luckily, politicians don't run the show anymore. The PEOPLE will decide what a republican is and anyone they don't like will be cast out. Trump is the person THE PEOPLE have chosen to represent them as the republican candidate. Therefore, anyone not in line with what the people want is a RINO.
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What he did as a private citizen is the only thing we have to gauge him on. What else should we look at when we are assessing him for the job?
Anyone thinking critically should be able to discern success - even if it's obtained while playing by the rule book politicians wrote.
For the first time in its history, the Republican Club of Harvard is refusing to support the nominee of the Republican Party for President.
As per, CNN.
But are they supporting anyone? That is the determiner. If not, as individuals they may be voting for Trump just not endorsing him. Did they say they would not support him or no endorse him?
But are they supporting anyone? That is the determiner. If not, as individuals they may be voting for Trump just not endorsing him. Did they say they would not support him or no endorse him?
Here’s the Harvard Republican Club’s statement:
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Dear Members and Alumni,
In every presidential election since 1888, the members and Executive Board of the Harvard Republican Club have gathered to discuss, debate, and eventually endorse the standard-bearer of our party. But for the first time in 128 years, we, the oldest College Republicans chapter in the nation, will not be endorsing the Republican nominee.
Donald Trump holds views that are antithetical to our values not only as Republicans, but as Americans. The rhetoric he espouses –from racist slander to misogynistic taunts– is not consistent with our conservative principles, and his repeated mocking of the disabled and belittling of the sacrifices made by prisoners of war, Gold Star families, and Purple Heart recipients is not only bad politics, but absurdly cruel.
If enacted, Donald Trump’s platform would endanger our security both at home and abroad. Domestically, his protectionist trade policies and draconian immigration restrictions would enlarge our federal deficit, raise prices for consumers, and throw our economy back into recession. Trump’s global outlook, steeped in isolationism, is considerably out-of-step with the traditional Republican stance as well. The flippancy with which he is willing to abdicate the United States’ responsibility to lead is alarming. Calling for the US’ withdrawal from NATO and actively endorsing nuclear proliferation, Donald Trump’s foreign policy would wreak havoc on the established world order which has held aggressive foreign powers in check since World War II.
Perhaps most importantly, however, Donald Trump simply does not possess the temperament and character necessary to lead the United States through an increasingly perilous world. The last week should have made obvious to all what has been obvious to most for more than a year. In response to any slight –perceived or real– Donald Trump lashes out viciously and irresponsibly. In Trump’s eyes, disagreement with his actions or his policies warrants incessant name calling and derision: stupid, lying, fat, ugly, weak, failing, idiot –and that’s just his “fellow” Republicans.
He isn’t eschewing political correctness. He is eschewing basic human decency.
Donald Trump, despite spending more than a year on the campaign trail, has either refused or been unable to educate himself on issues that matter most to Americans like us. He speaks only in platitudes, about greatness, success, and winning. Time and time again, Trump has demonstrated his complete lack of knowledge on critical matters, meandering from position to position over the course of the election. When confronted about these frequent reversals, Trump lies in a manner more brazen and shameless than anything politics has ever seen.
Millions of people across the country are feeling despondent. Their hours have been cut, wages slashed, jobs even shipped overseas. But Donald Trump doesn’t have a plan to fix that. He has a plan to exploit that.
Donald Trump is a threat to the survival of the Republic. His authoritarian tendencies and flirtations with fascism are unparalleled in the history of our democracy. He hopes to divide us by race, by class, and by religion, instilling enough fear and anxiety to propel himself to the White House. He is looking to to pit neighbor against neighbor, friend against friend, American against American. We will not stand for this vitriolic rhetoric that is poisoning our country and our children.
President Reagan called on us to maintain this, our shining city on a hill. He called on us to maintain freedom abroad by keeping a strong presence in the world. He called on us to maintain liberty at home by upholding the democratic process and respecting our opponents. He called on us to maintain decency in our hearts by loving our neighbor.
He would be ashamed of Donald Trump. We are too.
This fall, we will instead focus our efforts on reclaiming the Republican Party from those who have done it considerable harm, campaigning for candidates who will uphold the conservative principles that have defined the Republican Party for generations. We will work to ensure both chambers of Congress remain in Republican hands, continuing to protect against executive overreach regardless of who wins the election this November.
We call on our party’s elected leaders to renounce their support of Donald Trump, and urge our fellow College Republicans to join us in condemning and withholding their endorsement from this dangerous man. The conservative movement in America should not and will not go quietly into the night.
A longtime student of American democracy, Alexis de Tocqueville once said, “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”
De Tocqueville believed in the United States. Americans are a decent people. We work hard, protect our own, and look out for one another in times of need, regardless of the color of our skin, the God we worship, or our party registration. Donald Trump may not believe in that America, but we do. And that America will never cease to be great.
If they consider him "a threat to the survival of the Republic", I'd say it's a tad deeper than simply not endorsing.
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5 Star post! I have noticed that, they are listing each Republican and/or some better known individual that isn't supporting Trump. I am not sure why I should care.
Maybe this should be a "sticky" and each day, they just list the name and anyone that gives a darn can refer to that "sticky".
Well, what else can they really discuss while we wait for the next hit from Wiki Leaks? The Dems platform is "lie or deflect" and they serve it well. They are getting warmed up for the fire storm ahead.
I doubt most of us give a tinkers damn who the Harvard Republican club supports or doesn't support. Thank God most of us do not vote based on endorsements.
No surprise here that they are not going to support Trump. They are well educated, smart, and probably affluent, so they are able to rationally look at a candidate and know if he is worthy of support or a potential problem. They are simply not fooled by his dog and pony antics, hiding the fact his is dangerous and is not fit to run this country.
These Harvard people are thinkers who make decisions on facts, not conjecture or emotions. Kinda bears out what some people have been saying about the folks who do support Trump not being as well educated or informed.
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You know what? I come from an educated and very savvy family; From those of us, in the family that are pushing 80 all the way down to those in their 20s, we are all supporting him, as well as lawyer friends, doctor friends and engineer friends around the country. A persons education does not always tell his/her intelligence; remember, the majority of our country are hard working people, many without educations. Are you saying, they are inferior to Harvard grads? How sad, if you think that way?
How has our educated president in the Whitehouse right now done for starters?
I doubt most of us give a tinkers damn who the Harvard Republican club supports or doesn't support. Thank God most of us do not vote based on endorsements.
No, many of you do it based on party, and party alone. Last fall you said on this board that you could never vote for Trump, but once he won the nomination you said you would support him because he was the Republican candidate. He's the same man you claimed you couldn't support before he was the nominee. What changed? Other than he's on the top of the Republican ticket, that is?
Party before country, even if that means Donald Trump, right?
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