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I think most Trump fans are just happy that Hillary happens to be the anti-establishment opponent. She's probably the only chance that a candidate like Trump has to win.
Possibly, it would depend on who they were running though. I don't think it really matters in the end. I doubt either of them is going to be all to achieve much of anything really.
All I can say is I can't wait for the debates. I think that's the only chance Trump has of winning is if he slaughters her in the debates. Oh and wikileakes is releasing Hillary truth bombs in Oct. This is turning into a very interesting election...
This is what we call "Cherry picking" Trump shouldn't be down to begin with. The fact that he can't seal the deal against Clinton shows how weak of a candidate he is.
Clinton is the second worst candidate in history to run, right behind Trump. Clinton is so terrible that the fact that Trump is sinking just shows how monumentally bad Trump is.
...and here was my comment on that poll that directs you to the "most accurate reading of it" that shows Hillary up by +14%...
Well we all know that polls are wrong don't we? lol, just kidding, their actually pretty accurate if you know how to look at the data. The issue here is, you don't know what you're looking at.
How the USC/L.A. Times Daybreak tracking poll works
The USC Dornsife/L.A. Times Presidential Election "Daybreak" Poll asks more than 400 people each day about their voting intentions. The poll is part of the Understanding America Study (UAS) at the University of Southern California's Dornsife Center for Economic and Social Research.
Each day's poll respondents are a subset of the UAS election panel, roughly 3000 U.S. citizens who were randomly recruited from among all households in the United States. Respondents are asked three predictive questions: What is the percent chance that (1) you will vote in the presidential election? (2) you will vote for Clinton, Trump, or someone else? and (3) Clinton, Trump or someone else will win?
Results are weighted to match demographic characteristics, such as race and gender, from the U.S. Census Current Population Survey, and are aligned to the 2012 presidential election outcome using self-reported votes in that election.
You are correct that on the "Who would you vote for?" question, those polled have come to the split that you linked above. However, the poll is using this...
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Who would you vote for?
We ask voters what the chance is that they will vote for Trump, Clinton or someone else, using a 0-100 scale. The overall level of support for each candidate reflects the weighted average of those responses.
See, it's not a 1-person, 1-vote poll, but polls the "support level" for the candidate and that number is then modified based on prior demographic trends. One of the big issues is that demographic trends are shifting this election as educated whites, both male and female, flock to Clinton. You need to scroll down the page to this poll...
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Who do you think will win?
We ask voters who they expect to see win, regardless of which candidate they support. Over the years, asking voters their expectation about which candidate will win often has proved to predict elections more reliably than asking how they plan to vote. That’s particularly true when the election is still many weeks away.
Based on this view of the poll:
Hillary - 54.2%
Trump - 40.0%
That's a WHOPPING 14.2% spread for Hillary in the poll that has proven the most accurate.
We are making the assumption Trump supporters understand the Electoral College. They don't.
I think the most interesting scenario would be Trump winning the popular vote while Clinton wins the Electoral College. I would love to see if the champions of all things patriotic and Constitutional, would try to change the beloved Constitution because they didn't get their way?
Did you miss the thread title? I said the last 5 polls. Nice strategy of taking away polls that don't suit your narrative.
All the words I've been reading from the Trump camp last week or so say the polls are made up anyway. But I guess they are only made up if they don't support Trump.
"You guys" really need to find a story you can stick with...
Did you miss the thread title? I said the last 5 polls. Nice strategy of taking away polls that don't suit your narrative.
The 5 polls that you did not provide a link to? Those 5 polls?
I thought the **********s did not believe in polls, just rally size and tweeter counts.
Do you want to tell us what 5 polls you are referring to and why they are believable?
The 5 polls that you did not provide a link to? Those 5 polls?
I thought the **********s did not believe in polls, just rally size and tweeter counts.
Do you want to tell us what 5 polls you are referring to and why they are believable?
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