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Old 09-09-2016, 10:44 PM
 
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^^^^It doesn't matter what you say or what you link to. Trump supporters live in an alternate universe where up is down, right is left and history is rewritten with impunity. It's mind-boggling.
SO TRUE!! But the scary part is that these people actually get to vote.

 
Old 09-09-2016, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Long Neck , DE
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It might be true but it is still not something that needed to be said: damn he has to watch his mouth.
Yes he needs to watch his mouth. While the statement may be correct he does not need to make friends with this man.
 
Old 09-10-2016, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Absolutely traitorous to undermine our Commander in Chief while thousand of my fellow Soldiers are in harm's way in Iraq and Syria. Unforgivable. Never will this idiot get my vote.

Not to even mention that admiring Putin in any way is despicable for what the man has been responsible for.

But we know the admiration for Hitler has been documented so the Putin bromance isn't surprising whatsoever.
Thank you for your service to our country. It is my understanding from talking to many of your fellow brothers and sisters in the Armed Forces that none of them want Donald Trump as their Commander in Chief.
 
Old 09-10-2016, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Someone with direct knowlege of Putin's Russia here:

Sure, he is a strong leader. Not sure whether he is stronger than Obama or if such a comparison is meaningful but yes, Putin is strong.

But strength in itself is neither good nor bad. It is all about how it is being applied and to what end. In Russia its not being used for the well being of its people, that is for sure.

There is political censorship and voicing certain opinions out loud may lend you in jail or worse. There is state sanctioned religious descrimination and religious indoctrination. Being gay and talking about it is illegal. A large segment of the population is in a media induced state of hysteria about Russia's fictional enemies being ready to strike.

There is corruption like people who's only lived in America cannot even begin to imagine- despite all the patriotic brainwashing, the elite and those who serve it will suck you dry with complete impunity. Healthcare is in ruins. Infrastructure outside of regional capitals is barely in existence. The level of petty violence makes America look like Eden. Overall, it is not a happy place on many, many levels.

My sense is that Trump will bring America closer to my description of Russia above. If what I told you about Putin's Russia sounds like your American dream, Trump is totally your guy in November.
Beautifully stated
 
Old 09-10-2016, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Someone with direct knowlege of Putin's Russia here:

Sure, he is a strong leader. Not sure whether he is stronger than Obama or if such a comparison is meaningful but yes, Putin is strong.

But strength in itself is neither good nor bad. It is all about how it is being applied and to what end. In Russia its not being used for the well being of its people, that is for sure.

There is political censorship and voicing certain opinions out loud may lend you in jail or worse. There is state sanctioned religious descrimination and religious indoctrination. Being gay and talking about it is illegal. A large segment of the population is in a media induced state of hysteria about Russia's fictional enemies being ready to strike.

There is corruption like people who's only lived in America cannot even begin to imagine- despite all the patriotic brainwashing, the elite and those who serve it will suck you dry with complete impunity. Healthcare is in ruins. Infrastructure outside of regional capitals is barely in existence. The level of petty violence makes America look like Eden. Overall, it is not a happy place on many, many levels.

My sense is that Trump will bring America closer to my description of Russia above. If what I told you about Putin's Russia sounds like your American dream, Trump is totally your guy in November.
You sound completely naive to what the political system has become in the US.
 
Old 09-10-2016, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I can imagine Clinton's debate prep will include discussing the bromance.

http://truthnetmedia.com/wp-content/...rump-putin.jpg
 
Old 09-10-2016, 11:06 AM
 
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You sound completely naive to what the political system has become in the US.
I have experienced two systems, up close and personally. And I can tell you, putting my hand on my heart, American system is *awesome* compared to that other one that the Donald seems to admire.

The doom and gloom view of America comes from those who have not lived in most of the rest of the world and who take America for granted. Life is unfair everywhere but anyone who has experienced even a little bit of the world will tell you it is less unfair in America.

One candidate will basically keep what we have. The other one will do his best to destroy it (even though I believe that this unique country will not completely allow him). Is the choice not crystal clear?
 
Old 09-10-2016, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Vladivostok Russia
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Trump is correct. Putin is a stronger leader in his country that Obama has been here.

The media and others are trying to make it out to be something that it's not.

We have seen Obama betray and criticize Americans recently in Laos. We have seen Obama refer to the GOP as enemies and equate them with terrorist.

Putin has never done that in his own country nor does he go around the word saying things like that about his people. Putin doesn't go around the world apologizing for Russia either. Obama does.

Putin is a thug who does a lot of bad stuff and is said to kill people that oppose him and put them in jail too. He is no friend of America but that doesn't mean he is a weak leader.

I wonder how he would do on the streets of Chicago. It would be interesting to put Obama and Putin on the streets of Chicago at the same time and see how long they last before they are part of the statistics. Maybe one would rise to top and be a leader. I wouldn't put any money on Obama.
Paraphrasing - Putin is the guy who said " Russia doesn't need immigrant minorities to make us great - the minorities need Russia "
 
Old 09-10-2016, 12:40 PM
 
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I have experienced two systems, up close and personally. And I can tell you, putting my hand on my heart, American system is *awesome* compared to that other one that the Donald seems to admire.
Only a democrat could conclude that Trump admires Russia's system. You knowingly twisted the facts to suit your purpose, but you fooled no one. Such falsehoods is reminiscent of the lying, corrupt hillary. She would be proud...
Is it possible that your experience living in the other, corrupt system has tainted your judgement and motives? Living under such corruption can be catching...
The truth shall set you free..!!
GO TRUMP 2016
 
Old 09-10-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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I have experienced two systems, up close and personally. And I can tell you, putting my hand on my heart, American system is *awesome* compared to that other one that the Donald seems to admire.

The doom and gloom view of America comes from those who have not lived in most of the rest of the world and who take America for granted. Life is unfair everywhere but anyone who has experienced even a little bit of the world will tell you it is less unfair in America.

One candidate will basically keep what we have. The other one will do his best to destroy it (even though I believe that this unique country will not completely allow him). Is the choice not crystal clear?
It seems to be crystal clear that you spent some time in a communist country and are now more closely aligned with and supportive of a socialist government and against the Republic form of government which some of us want to maintain.

It may help with the homesickness issue but is not in the interest of a sovereign America. I too have spent time in a communist country and a socialist country. Not only is preservation of our Republic form of government the one that has allowed the greatest freedom it is/or has been a representation to the world what is possible when the government fears the people and not people in fear of the government.

It is not enough to keep alive what we have but to constantly strengthen it to best preserve it. The ones who have done their best to destroy it are Obama and crooked Hillary and they want to transform it into something that it is not. Something that takes government away from the people and put it in the hands of unelected bureaucrat's. That is the globalist form of government. To be led by those far removed from the people and issues they are concerned about. On almost every issue crooked Hillary's solution is to form a body of elites ( un elected bureaucrats ) to decide what is in their best interest and then champion that to the people as in their best interest. That is how she pays back and maintains her donors for the reelection should she get in power.

"GO TRUMP" maintain the Republic and strengthen it reject globalist crooked Hillary and her anarchy party.
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