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Old 09-16-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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If he thinks he is going to bring back jobs by getting rid of trade agreements and instituting tariffs, other nations will respond in kind and we will lose the market for the goods that are still manufactured in the U.S.

Then where will be?

You don't have to be an economist to know that we simply cannot pay off the national debt by buying and selling stuff to ourselves.
Seems to be working for China.. their wages are climbing and they have no lack of companies trying to move there..

are you saying Americans are dumber than the Chinese, or just lazier?
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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A very intelligent man said:

"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it"
Albert Einstein
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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This is typical Republican dribble, they run to deflection when they can't substantiate the first assertions they push, now they've jumped to Illegal Immigrants.
They were not a problem for many of the same people whom are "now complaining" when they rushed out to hire them, circling Home Depot Lots and any known place they could find cheap labor, and anyone that could set up a sweat shop, chasing down illegal immigrants; and anyone who even considered a house keeper or baby sitter was hunting down Mexican people. Heck, after they hunt one down, they bombarded that one with inquiry about if they had friends who could come and work.

There is very few Illegals who get jobs, unless other American's hire them. It's typical, these same people will seek out anything to be the 'reason and cause and blame", except they will never look in the ranks of the white people, who are the ones who shipped away the industry and own the shops and business that hire illegals.

I'm not saying Illegal Immigration is not an issue that should be addressed, but I do assert that the classification of Illegals, does not just apply to Mexican and Central American People !!!!!

Now..... what is the next angle people will choose to deflect to...
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:19 AM
 
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If he thinks he is going to bring back jobs by getting rid of trade agreements and instituting tariffs, other nations will respond in kind and we will lose the market for the goods that are still manufactured in the U.S.

Then where will be?

You don't have to be an economist to know that we simply cannot pay off the national debt by buying and selling stuff to ourselves.
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Seems to be working for China.. their wages are climbing and they have no lack of companies trying to move there..
Are you serious?

Export growth has been a major component supporting China's rapid economic expansion.

Exports are sliding due to global uncertainty and weak demand and their economy is taking a huge hit.

Google it if you doubt this.
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The millions of people who have seen their jobs go to India, China & Mexico, don't blame Trump because he is buying shirts from overseas. They blame the crooked system of bought & paid for politicians who passed trade deals that make it happen. i.e. Hillary Clinton
The U.S. has no trade deal with India or China. Neither country is part of TPP either.
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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You have no idea how much time Trump has spent in Flint in his lifetime. Trump has not obligation to change his business practices until the rules are changed. Why should HE be penalized with an economic disadvantage while his competitors aren't?
It's called walking the walk. How can we trust him fighting for that if he don't in his private company.
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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It's called walking the walk. How can we trust him fighting for that if he don't in his private company.
So you are saying you would have preferred that he did the opposite of 90% of the manufacturing companies in the US did so he could incur much higher expenses and likely not have a successful business...just to prove a point?
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Old 09-16-2016, 03:25 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You have no idea how much time Trump has spent in Flint in his lifetime. Trump has not obligation to change his business practices until the rules are changed. Why should HE be penalized with an economic disadvantage while his competitors aren't?

He also has no obligation to do everything allowed by the current rules including making his crap overseas, HE chose to do so and HE owns it.
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Old 09-16-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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He also has no obligation to do everything allowed by the current rules including making his crap overseas, HE chose to do so and HE owns it.
So the argument here is that he should have made bad business decisions that would hurt his business?
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Old 09-16-2016, 03:33 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So the argument here is that he should have made bad business decisions that would hurt his business?

So, I guess your argument should be that he's a damn orange hypocrite for whining about Ford moving auto production to Mexico, right?

Or does the Kool-Aid lead people to believe other businessmen should make bad business decisions to save American jobs but Donny should follow his life-long ME! ME! ME! protocol?
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