Tim Kaine was Deeply Apposed to Illegal Immigration in 2005
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In my book pro amnesty could mean if a person has been here working for 30 years, give them a green card and no benefits, including SS. If the Congress would at least take it up, we could get definitions enough to find some common ground.
Imprison or send home criminals.
The congress has ignored this for so long, I have to believe they ALL favor illegals. They also ignore those who hire illegals unless it is so egregious they can't. Both parties, all POTUS.
So if an illegal has managed to evade the law, commit felony ID theft for a long time they should get a pass on our immigration laws? Our immigration laws state that all illegals should be deported when discovered not just those that are "convicted" criminals.
So if an illegal has managed to evade the law, commit felony ID theft for a long time they should get a pass on our immigration laws? Our immigration laws state that all illegals should be deported when discovered not just those that are "convicted" criminals.
Yes. That's exactly what Trump is going to do. As he said at his policy speech.
There are unlimited H-2A visas for legal, foreign crop pickers so why would the farmers not be able to find legal help? It's not a career job for Americans and is only seasonal work.
1) H2A is expensive
2) it requires farmers to commit to a certain number of workers long before they know what they will need
"Barr says it's easy to understand why only a handful of employers bring in guest workers. He spends $1,000 per worker for visas, consulate fees and transportation to North Carolina. He's required to pay for their housing, and he estimates he has spent more than $80,000 building a house on his property, plus $36,000 to buy a mobile home and $5,000 a year to rent an apartment for the 48 workers he employs during the growing season. The government makes him pay them $9.68 an hour, which is about one-third higher than the minimum wage in the state, and he spends thousands of dollars on workers' compensation insurance."For U.S. farmers and Mexican workers, it's tough being legal - LA Times
Yes. That's exactly what Trump is going to do. As he said at his policy speech.
Deport the criminals and then . . we'll see.
Were you not listening?
Yes, I was and it is back peddling if he doesn't fulfill his promise to deport them instead. I never did go along with any plan to round them all up just enforce the laws on the books as they are found whether they are "convicted" criminals or not. None of these stays of deportation that Obama implemented and which Hillary will try to continue.
BIG SURPRISE, Hillary supported building a Wall in Mexico in 2006 as well just like Trump says last year. Google a video and you'll see then senator Clinton says we need to build a bigger Wall in Mexico.
Not feasible to deport millions of illegals in the shadows who've been in the country for a long, long time, some for decades. It's a practical fix and reality based. Sorry folks if your candidate loses, but moving forward that's how the country is moving whether you like it or not.
What are you babbling about, exactly? Are you saying that you want amnesty for illegals? Why should we reward people for evading the law? How is that fair to those who obeyed our immigration laws and patiently awaited their turn to come here? Answer---it's not fair at all. In fact, it is a slap in the face to legal immigrants.
You're old enough to recall (and you, no doubt, voted for him) when Reagan pushed through the 1986 amnesty. He was promised by the dems (you know, the dems you now support) that it would be the one and only amnesty, the border would be secured and that illegals would never be able to hold jobs. The dems reneged on every single promise. I was never a fan of Reagan but before he was stricken with Alzheimer's, he said he regretted the amnesty. Of course, by then, the amnesty was done---and all it did was encourage millions more illegals to come here.
No one is talking about rounding up illegals. Make life very difficult for them to survive here and they will leave on their own accord. Would you stay someplace illegally if you couldn't find work or tap into any welfare programs?
Kaine/Clinton (and basically Trump) say deport any criminals and offer some kind of path to citizenship for those who are good citizens.
End of story.
Per the bolded --- "good citizens"? Seriously? The term "law-abiding illegal alien" is an oxymoron. There is no such thing. Plus, they aren't US citizens. In order to survive here, they've had to break the law. Why should anyone reward them with amnesty?
In my book pro amnesty could mean if a person has been here working for 30 years, give them a green card and no benefits, including SS. If the Congress would at least take it up, we could get definitions enough to find some common ground.
Imprison or send home criminals.
The congress has ignored this for so long, I have to believe they ALL favor illegals. They also ignore those who hire illegals unless it is so egregious they can't. Both parties, all POTUS.
Nope.
The 1986 amnesty happened 30 years ago. Since then, despite the dems promising that it would be the one and only amnesty, we've had several stealth amnesties since then. Anyone who has been here for 30 years and never bothered to avail themselves of the various amnesties deserves to be deported.
Some illegals engaged in ID theft in order to work. When Americans commit ID theft, they get arrested and sent to jail. Yet, you want to reward those who are here illegally and engaged in ID theft. If they didn't engage in ID theft, then they were being paid under the table. In other words, they committed tax evasion. When Americans commit tax evasion, they go to jail. Yet you want to reward illegals who do that. Then there are illegals who use fake SSNs. The problem is that the fake SSN could well belong to a living person. Despicably, there is a loophole in the law that says it's okay for someone to use your SSN as long as they don't use your name with it. No politicians on either side of the aisle have made an effort to close this loophole. If someone is using your SSN but not your name, the SSA won't tell you. You only find out when the IRS comes after you for not filing a return for a job you never worked. People who have had that happen to them get put into a world of hurt. Yet, you want to reward people who are here illegally.
All illegals are criminals. There is no such thing as an "honest illegal alien". Period.
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Then there are illegals who use fake SSNs. The problem is that the fake SSN could well belong to a living person. Despicably, there is a loophole in the law that says it's okay for someone to use your SSN as long as they don't use your name with it. No politicians on either side of the aisle have made an effort to close this loophole. If someone is using your SSN but not your name, the SSA won't tell you. You only find out when the IRS comes after you for not filing a return for a job you never worked. People who have had that happen to them get put into a world of hurt. Yet, you want to reward people who are here illegally.
