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Old 10-12-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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Thank you Mr Trump for telling it like it is, talking about the govt corruption, the boiler room payments, the fake speeches to big banks, the rapes, the lies, the coverups about health, the trashing of underage rape victims, the open borders with crime and drugs pouring in to the communities where our children live and play and smile and laugh, thank you for opening our eyes to things we wouldn't have otherwise known about.

Even if we are a nation of trained sheep and just vote for Hillary and elect her president, Trump did his job, he exposed the corrupt political system and now we have our eyes opened, to many, none of this matters, they're still going to try and elect hillary no matter how much stuff comes out, no matter how many 'sand jockey' comments she makes, no matter who she insults, everyday americans, deporable people who won't vote for her and the list goes on and on, at the end of the day, Trump exposed this stuff that nobody else would expose, he talked about things that nobody else would talk about, hopefully his legacy will be the agent of change and the year of 'exposure' to this crap hard working Americans have to deal with on a daily basis.

Will Hillary 'change' if elected and become less corrupt and get out there on the ground floor and grind for YOU, the american citizen? Will she be a tireless worker on our crime problem or our terror problem? I guess we won't know until she's in the white house, if you are voting for her, you need to hold her to a high standard, just winning the white house and doing the same stuff isn't going to be good enough, voting for her because Trump said Miss Piggy 20 years ago, that's not good enough either because the bottom line is that if she wins, Trump will be out of sight and out of mind and his 'rude' comments won't mean a hill (pun intended) of beans when all that's left is Hillary and the American people.

Hillary wins and you can say 'yay, we prevented the rude guy from winning' but then what? Make sure you go deeper than casting a vote so the 'rude guy' won't win because what we really all care about is issues, we care about our safety and our incomes and our taxes and our happiness. Make sure that a vote for Hillary is going to get you a grinder who's all in, a grinder who's going to fight for YOU and not put the big donors first, a grinder who's going to have hard hat in hand and be in the places that get hit hard by weather events and terror in the next 4 years, we will have bad weather events and we will have terror, i expect her to be on the ground floor hugging people and assuring that its going to be ok and that she will make sure its ok if its the last thing she does. I know Trump will do that, if he's president and there's a tragedy, he will be there as soon as possible, that's what Presidents do, even if its 3am, he's going to be there.

Thank you Mr Trump, you made America a better place already.
Yeah but it depends on whose America you're talking about. Certainly hasn't made it better for anybody with half a brain, all minorities, and the 11 million he wants to run out of the country even though the vast majority have lived here for decades, pose no threat, and also pay taxes while doing jobs guys like you either can't or won't do.

He's nothing but a loud mouthed, ill informed, amoral boyman of privilege, who anybody with any sense of intelligence and decency is deserting in droves. He is basically an embarrassment and I can't wait for the butt kicking HC is soon to drop on him.

Buh Bye Donny!
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Old 10-12-2016, 02:56 PM
 
Location: West Texas
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Keep digging. There's a pony in there somewhere.
Yeah, and her name is Hillary.
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Old 10-12-2016, 03:28 PM
 
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Yeah but it depends on whose America you're talking about. Certainly hasn't made it better for anybody with half a brain, all minorities, and the 11 million he wants to run out of the country even though the vast majority have lived here for decades, pose no threat, and also pay taxes while doing jobs guys like you either can't or won't do.

He's nothing but a loud mouthed, ill informed, amoral boyman of privilege, who anybody with any sense of intelligence and decency is deserting in droves. He is basically an embarrassment and I can't wait for the butt kicking HC is soon to drop on him.

Buh Bye Donny!
It's more than 11 million---and guess what? They are illegal aliens. What part of "illegal" don't you understand? They have no business being here. Period. Pose no threat? Seriously? Tell that to the American citizens who have had their IDs stolen by illegals. Tell that to the millions of native-born Puerto Ricans who have borne a disproportional brunt of the ID theft by illegals. It got so bad that the Puerto Rican government declared all PR issued birth certificates null and void. Now if people need a copy of their BC, they have to jump through hoops to get a certified, secured copy. Pay taxes? Sure---through ID theft or by using a fake SSN. That fake SSN sometimes belongs to a living person who gets put into a world of hurt. Even worse---the law says it's okay if someone uses your SSN as long as they don't use your name with it. Despicably, no politician on either side of the aisle has made an effort to close this glaring loophole. Oh---if someone is currently using your SSN, the SSA won't tell you. Instead, you find out when the IRS comes after you for not filing a return on a job you never worked. Read the stories about Americans who discovered that scores of illegals were using their SSN and read about the hell those Americans were put through. And let's talk about the illegals who get paid under the table, thereby engaging in tax evasion. Americans who commit ID theft and tax evasion go to jail. Liberals want to give illegals who do those things amnesty---how insane and grossly unfair is that?

And, Americans do want those jobs that illegals are doing. Take the time to look around you, you will notice Americans doing those very jobs---even in immigrant-heavy cities.

I have to wonder why you love illegal aliens so much. What, exactly, is your dog in this fight? Do you have relatives who are here illegally or do you hire illegals?

It's about time someone secured our border, tracked visa overstayers, and made life so tough for illegals that they will leave on their own accord.
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Old 10-12-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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The reality is there are 2 main parties and that's it. The vast majority of people vote for either team D or R. The voting public enables a 2 party system and that's reality. And that's what we have and what John Adam's rightfully called out as a major problem and we are seeing it now, on these forums, 99% of which is "my team R or D is better!" and are too blind to fighting each other that they miss how they are being sold down the river, owned by donors. Being used. That's a pretty dumb voting populace to enable such a system, wouldn't you say? Especially when the vast majority of the public moans and whines about those in office yet end up electing the vast majority in again and the new faces are just a bought off clone. It's truly insanity if one stops and analyzes this and gets off their team bandwagon and realizes the entire system is a bought and sold/corrupt machine that the very public who complains about it all elects them in over and over again. This is stupidity in my book at it's highest level.

Heck, look at all the sheep getting ready to vote another bought off/inept one in office. In a more intelligent/logical world, someone like the "extremely careless"/duh what's "c" mean hil would be lucky to get 3% of the vote, if that. In the bizarro world, they could become president.
In an intelligent, logical world..Republicans would have nominated Kasich--who easily would have beaten Clinton.
You use the term 'vast majority' a lot--I disagree with your premise--the 'vast majority' just want to get on with their life--while you apparently think that the system is broken and on the verge of collapse, most people that I talk to disagree.

To close..I don't mind change..new ideas...new perspectives--but pandering to the worst in our nature is not the way to get my vote..nor the votes of the 'vast majority'.
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Old 10-12-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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We have a political system where corporations/donors can influence elections because they are "people", a system where every elected official has to spend the majority of their time campaigning so they can get reelected, a system where you can lobby and legally buy influence from your elected representatives, it's been that way do now that a woman is going to get elected now it bothers you, the party of big business, that's ridiculous now they are bought and paid for? You want to change the rules at the finish line.
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:03 PM
 
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Thank you Mr Trump for telling it like it is, talking about the govt corruption, the boiler room payments, the fake speeches to big banks, the rapes, the lies, the coverups about health, the trashing of underage rape victims, the open borders with crime and drugs pouring in to the communities where our children live and play and smile and laugh, thank you for opening our eyes to things we wouldn't have otherwise known about.

Even if we are a nation of trained sheep and just vote for Hillary and elect her president, Trump did his job, he exposed the corrupt political system and now we have our eyes opened, to many, none of this matters, they're still going to try and elect hillary no matter how much stuff comes out, no matter how many 'sand jockey' comments she makes, no matter who she insults, everyday americans, deporable people who won't vote for her and the list goes on and on, at the end of the day, Trump exposed this stuff that nobody else would expose, he talked about things that nobody else would talk about, hopefully his legacy will be the agent of change and the year of 'exposure' to this crap hard working Americans have to deal with on a daily basis.

Will Hillary 'change' if elected and become less corrupt and get out there on the ground floor and grind for YOU, the american citizen? Will she be a tireless worker on our crime problem or our terror problem? I guess we won't know until she's in the white house, if you are voting for her, you need to hold her to a high standard, just winning the white house and doing the same stuff isn't going to be good enough, voting for her because Trump said Miss Piggy 20 years ago, that's not good enough either because the bottom line is that if she wins, Trump will be out of sight and out of mind and his 'rude' comments won't mean a hill (pun intended) of beans when all that's left is Hillary and the American people.

Hillary wins and you can say 'yay, we prevented the rude guy from winning' but then what? Make sure you go deeper than casting a vote so the 'rude guy' won't win because what we really all care about is issues, we care about our safety and our incomes and our taxes and our happiness. Make sure that a vote for Hillary is going to get you a grinder who's all in, a grinder who's going to fight for YOU and not put the big donors first, a grinder who's going to have hard hat in hand and be in the places that get hit hard by weather events and terror in the next 4 years, we will have bad weather events and we will have terror, i expect her to be on the ground floor hugging people and assuring that its going to be ok and that she will make sure its ok if its the last thing she does. I know Trump will do that, if he's president and there's a tragedy, he will be there as soon as possible, that's what Presidents do, even if its 3am, he's going to be there.

Thank you Mr Trump, you made America a better place already.
This post is so full of crap, it's impossible to know where to begin. Hlllary Clinton laughed at a 12-year-old rape victim. That is preposterous and has already been debunked in many places. What coverup about health? That she didn't tell the world she had pneumonia? How about Trump and his coke head sniffles? Shouldn't he let us in on that? Trump didn't "expose" anything corrupt; the man has left a 30-year-trail of corruptness behind him. And as for. . . oh why bother, you people live in an alternative reality, where up is down, and right is left, there's simply no room in your head for logic or reason. Hillary is the American-Hating Great Monster. Trump is the Russian-Loving Great Savior. How simple and lovely. Carry on, then. . . .
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Old 10-13-2016, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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It's good to see Trump fans are starting to come to grips with reality. Whew, it has been tough stretch but together we'll get there!

Step 1. Denial - check
Step 2. Anger - check (still working through it)
Step 3. Bargaining (check)
Step 4. Depression (coming to grips)
Step 5. ACCEPTANCE (Almost there)
Agree 100%.

Give a Trump supporter a hug today.
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Old 10-13-2016, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Dear Mr. Trump

Thanks for doing an astonishing amount of damage to the GOP, thereby enhancing the chances of Democrats up and down the ballot this year and causing lingering damage which will haunt the Republican Party in future election cycles.

Sincerely,
A Democrat
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Old 10-13-2016, 06:36 AM
 
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This post is so full of crap, it's impossible to know where to begin. Hlllary Clinton laughed at a 12-year-old rape victim. That is preposterous and has already been debunked in many places.
Studies on interpersonal attraction confirm that people are attracted to those with similar values.

So those with a strong desire for power, little sympathy for those less fortunate than they are, and a core belief that the truth is whatever you want it to be would logically be attracted to Trump.

We've seen it demonstrated on this forum as Trump supporters post "factually inaccurate" information over and over, despite post after post with links to accurate information.

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What coverup about health? That she didn't tell the world she had pneumonia?
They embarrass themselves with glee-filled posts about how she has Parkinson's, etc. and doesn't have long to live.

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Trump didn't "expose" anything corrupt; the man has left a 30-year-trail of corruptness behind him. And as for. . . oh why bother, you people live in an alternative reality, where up is down, and right is left, there's simply no room in your head for logic or reason.
There really isn't. They believe that Trump will win in a landslide because there are tons of heretofore quiet supporters (dare to dream) that will come out of the woodwork to vote for him.

Then they will be in power because their hero is.

Oh, if only.
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Old 10-13-2016, 07:47 AM
 
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Thank you Mr Trump for telling it like it is, talking about the govt corruption, the boiler room payments, the fake speeches to big banks, the rapes, the lies, the coverups about health, the trashing of underage rape victims, the open borders with crime and drugs pouring in to the communities where our children live and play and smile and laugh, thank you for opening our eyes to things we wouldn't have otherwise known about.

Even if we are a nation of trained sheep and just vote for Hillary and elect her president, Trump did his job, he exposed the corrupt political system and now we have our eyes opened, to many, none of this matters, they're still going to try and elect hillary no matter how much stuff comes out, no matter how many 'sand jockey' comments she makes, no matter who she insults, everyday americans, deporable people who won't vote for her and the list goes on and on, at the end of the day, Trump exposed this stuff that nobody else would expose, he talked about things that nobody else would talk about, hopefully his legacy will be the agent of change and the year of 'exposure' to this crap hard working Americans have to deal with on a daily basis.

Will Hillary 'change' if elected and become less corrupt and get out there on the ground floor and grind for YOU, the american citizen? Will she be a tireless worker on our crime problem or our terror problem? I guess we won't know until she's in the white house, if you are voting for her, you need to hold her to a high standard, just winning the white house and doing the same stuff isn't going to be good enough, voting for her because Trump said Miss Piggy 20 years ago, that's not good enough either because the bottom line is that if she wins, Trump will be out of sight and out of mind and his 'rude' comments won't mean a hill (pun intended) of beans when all that's left is Hillary and the American people.

Hillary wins and you can say 'yay, we prevented the rude guy from winning' but then what? Make sure you go deeper than casting a vote so the 'rude guy' won't win because what we really all care about is issues, we care about our safety and our incomes and our taxes and our happiness. Make sure that a vote for Hillary is going to get you a grinder who's all in, a grinder who's going to fight for YOU and not put the big donors first, a grinder who's going to have hard hat in hand and be in the places that get hit hard by weather events and terror in the next 4 years, we will have bad weather events and we will have terror, i expect her to be on the ground floor hugging people and assuring that its going to be ok and that she will make sure its ok if its the last thing she does. I know Trump will do that, if he's president and there's a tragedy, he will be there as soon as possible, that's what Presidents do, even if its 3am, he's going to be there.

Thank you Mr Trump, you made America a better place already.

Except Trump is not running to expose government corruption or "Make America Great Again" he is running for self aggrandizement and to stoke his own ego.
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