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grope
ɡrōp/
verb
gerund or present participle: groping
feel or fondle (someone) for sexual pleasure, especially against their will.
"he was accused of groping office girls"
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Legality isn't the question. Character and morality is. The campaign is a job interview and I wouldn't hire a guy who has complaints of groping or sexual harassment against him from his job references that I contact. I surely wouldn't vote for POTUS with that history.
But as I posted elsewhere, if these allegations had never occurred. The guy isn't qualified and incompetent and not vote-worthy.
Once again, "complained" does not make something valid or true.
Have you ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
How would you like it if the media came out and said "bucfan did this/that/the other thing" and via public opinion, without knowing you or being there when said accusation occurred, ie had no way to know if you were guilty or innocent, all thought you were guilty like you are acting towards others?
No like/not fair, right?
Sounds like you need your own definition help on the topic:
Wrong. He said them while married but said he tried to hook up with her awhile back before her "work".
fair enough. here's the exact quote:
"I moved on her and I failed. I’ll admit it.
I did try and f**k her. She was married.
I moved on her like a b***h, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married.
Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony **** and everything. She’s totally changed her look."
so you may be right, trump may not have been married at the time he tried to f**k nancy o'dell ( more investigation is needed )...... but it's clear he doesn't give a rat's ass about someone else's marriage.
I moved on her like a b***h, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married.
Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony **** and everything. She’s totally changed her look."
so you may be right, trump may not have been married at the time he tried to f**k nancy o'dell ( more investigation is needed )...... but it's clear he doesn't give a rat's ass about someone else's marriage.
Pheww, thank goodness hil and bill are the pinnacle example of what a good marriage looks like in this presidential election.
So don't waste your time with such an example.....if bill can do what he did and we are ready to perhaps elect the woman who stood by/enabled this trash/stays married to him, it's obvious to the american public this all means nothing. Though there's lots of pretend outrage being played by the hil crowd in all of this but that's understandable in the age of hypocrisy.
grope
ɡrōp/
verb
gerund or present participle: groping
feel or fondle (someone) for sexual pleasure, especially against their will.
"he was accused of groping office girls"
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Legality isn't the question. Character and morality is. The campaign is a job interview and I wouldn't hire a guy who has complaints of groping or sexual harassment against him from his job references that I contact. I surely wouldn't vote for POTUS with that history.
But as I posted elsewhere, if these allegations had never occurred. The guy isn't qualified and incompetent and not vote-worthy.
Yet crazy Joe Bidden has groped women and made improper statements and intrusions on young girls but doesn't get the same condemnation. Its on video so it can't be denied.
Once again, "complained" does not = valid or true.
Have you ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
How would you like it if the media came out and said "bucfan did this/that/the other thing" and via public opinion, without knowing you or being there when said accusation occurred, ie had no way to know if you were guilty or innocent, all thought you were guilty like you are acting towards others?
No like/not fair, right?
Sounds like you need your own definition help on the topic:
A Trump supporter insisting that a person should not called creepy, corrupt, crooked.... without first determining if this is accurate as a person is innocent until proven guilty.
from what little i've seen so far is reliant on both sides by "he said/she said" and void of hard evidence. that's why i've yet to comment on it and have kept my responses limited to trump's recorded claims.
A Trump supporter insisting that a person should not called creepy, corrupt, crooked.... without first determining if this is accurate as a person is innocent until proven guilty.
Will wonders never cease?
Non sequitur. You're not grasping the point. Let me simplify.
Let's play a game......You're running for some kind of major public office, a public job that requires public approval, etc. Many people don't want to see you elected/approved for that position so many accuse you of being "creepy, corrupt, crooked", etc. without knowing you except for he said/she said stories that haven't been proven in the court of law yet....therefore, innocent until proven guilty prevails, and which it should. However, since you seem to feel it's ok for people to make judgements about anyone in public without any concrete proof except "he said/she said", assign guilt based on people coming out of the woodwork, most conveniently about one month before an election, you think it would be just fine if the public judged you in such a manner on "he said/she said", no jury/judge to determine if it's all true or not?
Sure, you'd be ok with this....in a pigs eye!
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball
i've yet to make any comment about the clinton marriage altho my comments on trump hold true for bill as well.
if you want to call me a hypocrite then actually cite comments where i contradict myself.
We are on the same page. Just don't forget to add "like hangs around/enables like" and hil is part of the enabling equation. Then we'd be 100% in agreement.
I recently went to a "guy's night" at a friend's house. We did the stereotypical "guy" stuff: drank beer and 40-year-old Scotch, grilled steaks, smoked cigars, and played cards. Not once did anyone at that party say anything remotely close to "grab 'em by the p***y."
We mostly talked about sports, movies, and music. As ADULT men, most of whom have significant others who are female, we have more respect for the women in our lives than to talk like that.
Frankly, I find it pretty insulting that Trump's defenders are trying to play it off as "all guys talk like that behind closed doors."
It's no coincidence that Trumplings support a candidate who once said that if his own daughter were being sexually harassed by her boss, she should quit and find a new job.
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