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Old 10-14-2016, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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So once again what are Trump's plans?
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Old 10-14-2016, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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What was "positive" about cooking the books when it comes to deportation figures? What is "positive" about dictating amnesty and work permits for DREAMers? How was DACA even remotely fair to foreign students who obey our immigration laws when they want to go to college here?
Okay, so the claim is still true.

More have been deported under Obama than under any other president. I didn't realize that it didn't count if they were caught at border patrol or not.

What happened to increase support at the border?
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Old 10-14-2016, 11:58 AM
 
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Okay, so the claim is still true.

More have been deported under Obama than under any other president. I didn't realize that it didn't count if they were caught at border patrol or not.

What happened to increase support at the border?
No, there weren't more deported Previous administrations didn't count it when those caught at the border and sent right back. So, yes, the Obama administration cooked the books.

Again, what good is it when he turns right around and dictates DACA? Even worse, he tried to dictate DAPA. Thankfully, SCOTUS put an end to the latter.
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:05 PM
 
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I think running on law and order was a mistake. Crime is down so much all over the country. My city has dropped almost by half since just 2002. The murder rate while down, hasn't changed too much. There are still parts of the city I wouldn't walk around in at night, but those areas are getting smaller.

Trump has one genuine issue to run on, jobs and the economy, and that is all he should talk about.

The US is seeing the lowest crime rates in decades and it simply isn't a good issue to run on.
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Too many think saying America First is controversial. Fact is there are many here illegally , committing crimes including murder against U.S citizens.

Lot's of these "poor children" that Hillary and others is talking about are kids of gang members.

MS13 is a violent El Salvadoran gang

Illegal Immigrant

This is just one example sadly.

"Adding to the problem of gang members being found among young illegal immigrants is that fact that even those who are somehow deported simply return again and again. On the July 8 Fox News Channel program, Your World with Neil Cavuto, Sheriff Paul Babeu of Pinal County, Arizona, reported that the federal government has released criminal illegal immigrants into his county. Amazingly, Babeu’s deputies have arrested individuals who have already been deported 10 or 15 times!

Babeu said, “[The federal government] has released dangerous violent criminals right in my county and they refuse to give me the names of these criminals, and that there are cartel scouts ... ushering the drugs through all the way up to Phoenix.... We have a guy just yesterday we arrested and everyday 10 times deported, 15 times deported, because there are no consequences for breaking the law.”"
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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OMG.

The murder rate increased over 10% in 2015 from 2014. PERIOD.

It doesn't matter if the trend WAS moving the other direction for the last BILLION years. It suddenly took a BIG jump in the opposite direction. Looking at 2016 so far I don't know if we will return to the other direction this year either.


BTW:

"Law and Order" is a racist code word.
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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OMG.

The murder rate increased over 10% in 2015 from 2014. PERIOD.

It doesn't matter if the trend WAS moving the other direction for the last BILLION years. It suddenly took a BIG jump in the opposite direction. Looking at 2016 so far I don't know if we will return to the other direction this year either.


BTW:

"Law and Order" is a racist code word.
Law and Order is racist ? How?
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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OMG.

The murder rate increased over 10% in 2015 from 2014. PERIOD.

It doesn't matter if the trend WAS moving the other direction for the last BILLION years. It suddenly took a BIG jump in the opposite direction. Looking at 2016 so far I don't know if we will return to the other direction this year either.


You're lost in the percentages again.


1 to 5 is a 500% increase
100,000 to 110,000 is a 10% increase


Which number has a greater impact? 4 or 10,000?
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:12 PM
 
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Law and Order is racist ? How?
Per the black CNN bobbleheads "When blacks hear the term 'law and order', what they really hear is 'mass incarceration'"


I believe it was Nia Malika Henderson, with Van Jones quickly backing her sentiments.

Last edited by chadgates; 10-14-2016 at 12:27 PM..
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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People shouldn't be worried about a crackdown on crime...unless they are criminals themselves or are criminal sympathisers.
aka their parents are criminals or children or spouse criminals and having them in jail would be bad for them.
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